tadaka

Like I said the actual ROE is useless for summons. If this rule was ment for his crew they should have just been a little more clear for his no other summons from his summon rat ability. That being said I dont think he is overpowered. Hamlin is different then a lot of masters in that its better to kill his ability to return and then kill him rather than takeing out his crew. Most crews work the other way and its best to take out the support first.

Well ratty I see what your saying but imho it look like the ROE for summons is useless and stops nothing O well so be it. I was looking for it in resolved rules questions and general rules questions i missed it in the book 2 section

Ratty can you link this thread please. I dont see how this post breaks it down in to 3 parts as you listed. I see 2. One as an action happens and then as the example the 0 after the action to get a blood counter.

Eh im not sure where you get that. I am aware of your 3rd listed thing but I know nothing about the 1 and 2 being seperate. Again sounds like trying to work around the rule to me. I am not saying you dont have any backing on this but I fail to see in any way how the ROE can ever be usefull for summons if everything works any way. Funny thing Is there was nothing wrong with the rule as written in the book IMHO. Simple if some thing dies only one counter can be made one summons and 1 card draw.

Well you are right they would make Waifs not spa off Entropic transformation. I was not exact enough in what I was getting at. You can use Blessings of Desolation or the built in from spa to get the same effect and kill rats while makeing more spa. His rule does not override the normal rules of how things are summoned. The order that effects go in to play would still effect this. Rat dies the effect off of the attacker goes first and hams ability gets blocked by ROE. I think people just try 2 hard to find ways around the ROE.

Hey sketch just curious. Is the only goal of the eratta to fix rules of the game or are you working in changes for balance reasons as well. Im cool ither way just curious if that is being factored in at all.

Levi. Sack rat make spa. Sack rat make spa. Sack rat make Spa. Sack rat make spa. Make desolation engine and watch him kill rats to you guess it make more spa. Just make sure the desolation engine is in base contact and you get the pet and not him

I liked pandora then I played vs Perditia. Not fealing the pandora love any more.

Eh perhaps i can offer a different thought on this. Imho 4 move models with out fast or nimble or some thing Ifind to be painfully slow. Levi due to the current way summon works means he can be quite fast. Alice removes that speed from his crew. I Find it much better to look in to other faster options. First turn I use a dog to make a second waif and charge in headlong. A pack of 8 spa and levi flying up in your face can rival the best for speed of moving across the table and with hitting power to boot. You be amazed how many models you can kill with 3 blast 2 damage aoe effects

Hes bob the blanket boy

Woot PDF cards for the win . This is total news to me. I for one would love to see this happen. The real reason this comes up on the board is how important the cards are and how difficult the current replace option can be. Thanks to the Wyrd team for looking in to options for makeing the game as player friendly as you can.

Eh im starting to think there would be a nice market in buying few thousand cards from wyrd and reselling them with out the 8 bucks over head for card shipments. They would probably not like me doing that however.

I understand that volume plays a factor. I get that they could not offer free shiping for a single blister but When some one is buying a 100 bucks of product free shiping does not seam unreasonable. Basicly my point was if any online store could do it then wyrd could do it as its obviously profitable to do so or online vendors would be out of business.

Comes down to a % of the player base wants any given model. Then only a % of them would pay to get an early version of card. Then you have to factor in how much they make on each card. Im guessing they are selling cards at next to no actual profit. Im not sure how many models they sell but my guess is that the final result is not worth the company time and money to put out. Thing I cant get is how they can sell for retail and make less money then online retailers who sell for 20% less and charge no shiping. (I fully support them selling for retail btw as it saves the local stores who they need to stay afloat like every other game company) Then again I know less then nothing about running a business

Personaly I think Marcus is a great CC crew. That being said I would avoid the starter. Pick up some of the neverborn Silurid, Marcus and a snake or 2. Makes for an fast solid cc crew. Just an idea if lilith does not float your boat.

Sent you a msg. Can also get back to me at tadaka_phoenix@hotmail.com

This has been traded thanks for looking. Any one out there happen to be willing to trade a ramos box set for my cridd box set. Cridd is new in box and has the plastic still on. i am looking for new models but they can be opened. Got the set as a gift and looking for a different set.

Eh came up a while back but I would love to see the floating vampire head show up as a spirit. Pandalagon or some thing like that

As I posted in another thread. I so vote for a ninja *****

Hum nathan likes ninjas, Maby we can get a ninja ***** master

I know some other games companies run a seasonal special deal. Did Wyrd run one last year?

"The real crux of the matter is whether or not he is slow on the following turn since he comes back in the closing phase of the same turn he dies." People keep saying this and I just dont get it. The book summon rules say for that turn. Next turn when you could actualy use him he would not be slow.

Jan 1 2013 right after the world ends

I found this very interesting. IMHO strait master to master Levi is the most jacked up master in the game. The ability to see what is coming and stack it means more often then not he will smoke just about any master from what I have observed. Hell that's what makes him so powerful is his ability to snipe out masters.

Wow very surprised levi rating so in peoples opinion given how many people cry he is over powered.