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Guys question regardless “misery”.

For example, a model is killed by multiple “misery” auras from Pandora and two sorrows. How to figure out who exactly killed that model? 

On 29.01.2018 at 3:31 PM, yool1981 said:

But the whole starter box on the NB side is really bad honestly.

I think Bloodwretches are fine minions that can work very well with Dreamer, Zoraida or Aionus (maybe other combos in NB?). Scion is ok, because of conditon removal aura (yeah quite expensive) and his (0) action. The issue is his attacks - while having good damage, their skill is only 5.

As for me three sorrows are quite enough. Imo it's not the best way to spend Pandoras APs, high card and soulstones on summoning sorrows every turn.

I think the most efficient way is to summon max amount of sorrows (3) at the first turn or turns as a set up. At the next turns we should use max of wp duels and sorrows auras to obliterate the enemy. Of course the best wp duels are come from our lovely Pandora, so it's better to use her at this job for the following turns. Sometimes even two sorrows on table (plus "misery" from Pandora) are enough to lose friends So more than 3 sorrows is overkill.

For me the best ability of the "depression" upgrade is "melancholy". It gives to all "woe" models and especially sorrows (!) an attack against wp. So sorrows are able to hurt something with average wp. Usually thanks to this I'm able to summon Poltergeist on the first turn, which is the real beast with his "distraction" aura.

"Delght in despair" is a good ability, but I always use "incite" as Pandoras (0) action. "Incite" is a really dangerous thing - hits wp, applies condition, free move (push) for Pandora. We should always use it trigger for double effect! At the first turn "incite" helps to move Pandora to the postiion and apply conditions for summoning. Next turns it's an almost free nuclear weapon in "misery" environment.

Couple of times "inflict" action was a blast either! Oh man! Killing 3-4 small models touched by 3-4 "misery" and a "distarction" (Poltergeist) auras in one Pandoras activation is something really mean! 

I am not a master jedi (not yet, hovewer I won recent local league), but maybe the problem covers in "models job" and their application for strategies and schemes? I mean the key could be the knowledge what every model and their combinations in your crew should do in realities of current strategy and scheme pool. When I build my rosters I try to ask myself what each of my models will do and why they are here. So this helps to have a plan for the game. You already know where you will go with this model, what this model will try to demolish, what is my back up plan if this model won't succeed, etc. Also understanding of schemes and startegies is a must, because we play for points from them. Your crew can be polished from table, but you can have more points and you will win. So we need to know which masters\models are good for the chosen strategy. Same for schemes. There are some that much easier to perform than others for each faction\master. I guess there is schemes tier for NB. The most obvious example - Titania crew and "dig their graves" scheme. You can look at your models and think for which schemes they can be good. At the same time you can think about which combinations of these models can give me a greater positive effect. Next you build roster where you know a duty of each model. This is only a theoretical part of the game, but it should be realised very well for sure. You can be very good at practice, but if you chose bad scheme or you didn't pick some good models for the scheme.. Less points at the end, less chances to win.

As mentioned before Candy needs someone who applies “mood swing” and/or “nobody likes me”. So Pandora and Iggy are good choices to join the little girl. Usually I used her in “guard the stash” or other control position strategies. “Fears given form “ works pretty good on her here as well.

To be honest I don’t really know what to do only with one model from my collection - Angel Eyes. Maybe just pray more and wait for July errata?

I have to disagree about Tannen and Barbaros. Both have really strong synergy with Pandora. Especially when playing “woe is me” Pandora. Mr. Tannen’s “cooler” aura is an amazing for card drain. Emissary with Pandora’s conflix can copy this aura for a greater use. Also Tannen has good cast against wp, which also applies a condition. Another thing is his “chatty” ability. This one can be really helpful in gg18 reality. He just need a pretty careful management. “Challenge “ of Barbaros is tough here as well. More wp duel that can save your other models. Actually both Tannen and Barbaros can be a good combo.

Another place for Barbaros can be Titania crew. “Challenge “ and “behold my glory “ are great combo. Also pushes from his attacks can provoke more “pounce” attacks from Rougarou/Kade/Lelu/Changelings. I think Barbaros is more tank model than hitter.

 So imo the ss cost of these two guys is fine, if you find a right use for them.

Beckoners are just 6 ss each now. They really needed this cost decrease for sure. I think this is really good change for TT Lynch.

So it worth to give them some tries even in NB Lynch crews now. I always took Lilitu instead of Beckoner.

11 hours ago, Joachim said:

What about just lilitu. A ca7 lure seems very solid in a fae crew. Though at 7ss she directly competes with a Knight and a doppelganger. 

Lilitu is great for sure. While the Tooth is compulsory include for Titania, I will take Lilitu instead of the Thorn. Knights defense is better and they are faes, but a real strong “lure” and 4 inch engagement are more preferable for me. Also her “whispers in blood” gives  for all duels! So this can help for her survivability a little bit.

Now it’s really interesting time to give a try for Lelu with his ss cost decrease. Maybe even to take him instead of Rougarou and combine the twins with the Tooth. Two “lures” from Lilitu and max 4 pushes from the knight (ideally). This “pounce” setup will need more carefull management, but I think the output can be more positive. When both twins are on table, they can heal together well. Also they can share “pounce” and “whispers in blood”. Another thing is Lelu’s 0 upgrade, which gives him +1 Df and almost free card draw-card discard ability.

3 hours ago, Freman said:

The Mature is very cool. He just suffers from not being Nekima.

Can we say the same about the Rider?

The Kades cost decrease was a real surprise for me! I think he is quite good even for 7 ss (especially with Teddy), but now he will see table more often for sure.

How do you guys plan to use Lelu? Alone or with his sister? Now he is more attractive to take him from start - 6 ss + his 0 upgrade, before I only summoned him via Dreamer. Barbaros and Tooth can provide pushes for his “pounce” condition. Of course this route can be more violent with Lilitu, cause she will also get that “pounce” and she can give positive flips for both of them. Yeah unfortunately they can’t be “faes”, so no shared armour and no buffs from Emissary.

1 hour ago, esqulax said:

I feel like Teddy has been dead for a while

When you have two of them..

23 hours ago, yool1981 said:

I think the hooded rider killed the Mature Nephilim :p.

Maybe Teddy as well

Thanks a lot guys!

It's time for a new purchase and I'm tearing between these two ladies. My pool of masters is Pandora, Dreamer, Lynch and freshly painted Titania.

Nekima is respectable NB all-stars member with fantastic melee potential. Hannah also has respactable attacks with blasts, also she brings more flexibiity with copying and sweet anti-cast bonuses. Nekima is quite straight forward. Hannah can provide more tools.

Probably it's a question of taste and what do you love more - demons or robots, but whom you guys can recommend me in gg2018 environment?

P.s. Happy New Year everyone! Wish you more fun and exiting games in new year.

Angel Eyes should get some boost for sure. Agree with guys from neighbor thread.

I think Illuminated will lose its main feature if you touch their defense. Their survival abilities are the main reason to take them out of Lynch.

On 08.12.2017 at 7:37 PM, Da Git said:

Hannah is awesome with Queen's Champ. With armour 2, 9 wounds and soulstones; she really tanky, she gives me an extra card (very nice with Pukey) and L-L solves all her mobility issues.  She also drops scheme markers off her blasts as Champ! She can also copy the Emissary's attack with Make a New Entry. In my last game she solo'd Ohaguro (no SS usage from Titania) and tanked Yasunori for a round before killing him with some help from Titania and Grootslang. 

Recently looked at her card and remembered your reply @Da Git. Slight off topic, but is Hannah a good choice in NB in general? Which masters\models can use her potential on max level? 

Guys one more noob question is here. In our equation we have enemy with “hem” and two our Voodoo Dolls. Does it mean that if any of our dolls suffer damage/condition the enemy “hemed” model will suffer the same?

5 hours ago, I'm a Teapot! said:

- Wave 5: Blutgunin. Lucius obey has a built in trigger to push someone and let him make a (1) action. But he can also choose to make the action and then push 3", which is what those little big hitters want. Walk 6, push into engagement with 1,2,3,...x enemies, discard x cards and do x Ml6 3/4/5 atks (to different models). And all for 1 Lucius ap and with a 5ss Minion. 

OMG! That’s awesome! I thought Bultungin can make only one (2) attack action per one push/move. So he can do it for each engaged enemy model! Really nice, but this can seriously drain your hand

Can Angel Eyes be considered as dark horse? Or she just isn’t that good for her ss cost? Are there any good combos with her or matches where she shines?

Guys a question about our little gangster with “growing up” and “sleep cycles”.

For example, there is turn 2 and Chompy is on a table. He activates and unburies Dreamer. The boy activates via “chain activation” and summons Mr. Bits again. Can Lord Chompy be activated again this turn? Of course he can’t chain activate again, but what about usual activation?  

I think yes, because technically it will be “new” Chompy which wasn’t activated before. “Previous” one was sacrificed.

1 minute ago, Ludvig said:

Are you asking for tips or do you mean that you are itching to try some tricks you have thought out?

Probably both, but for now I am chasing all available tips

Sorry for my mistake! But how she can use Wretch's full power?

In my noob understanding if she obeys him for his "rage builds", this action will work till the end of this current action. If Zoraida does that again for charge, then he will have two attacks with, but without any bonuses from "rage builds" cause it was ended previously, isn't it?

7 hours ago, Da Git said:

With what you've got (and assuming you don't have any other Neverborn), my shopping list would be...

Thanks for your advices! I have a respectable pool of models, which are Dreamer, Pandora, Lynch with almost all suitable for them models From your recommended list I just don't own NB effigy.

Really interested in how Titania deal with strategies and schemes.

1 hour ago, ObliterationPopsicle said:

Does this work? I remember some issue with The Rage Builds and activation, but can't recall the detail. 

Yeah unfortunately it works till the end of his activation.

49 minutes ago, Da Git said:

Is this helpful for people?  I can post a few other crews if people are interested?

I can also go through schemes and strats I like with Titania too...

Of course yes mate! Continue please

Recently I purchased just Titania and Tooth without their box. So I would like to get as more information about her play style as it will be possible.