Oddman

Thanks all. Seems unfortunate I just seemed to start with one of the worst boxes. lol. Onwards and upwards!

4 hours ago, ShinChan said:

No point of comparison. Make sure you're using proper plastic glue for modelism (Revel or Uhu are my favourites). For the Warjacks in metal: cyanoacrylate with the activator or the best is using some 2-component "cold soldering" glue, like Nural-27 (https://www.gravibase.com/en/products/henkel/pattex/nural-27/). With that, I had some warjacks falling from the table and not loosing a single piece

Actually, the worst thing ever is the PVC, models bulky and ugly AF, and no real good glue for them.

I don't think you understand the comparison with PP jacks (old ones). They never fit together properly and quite often had really bad gaps in the joins - much like this bayou boss.

1 hour ago, tmod said:

(0) "Welcome to Malifaux!" 😛

Joke aside, you found one of the worst places to start. The Bayou Boss, along with Yan Lo's box, are notoriously hard to put together... In general, Wyrd make some of the best plastic crack out there, but the price to pay is that they seem to pay close to zero attention to how easy their stuff is to put together. This allows them to create crazy dynamic poses, but we pay for it with hours of frustration.

A few survival tips for Wyrd plastic:

1. Always use the thinnest plastic cement you can get your hands on. I use Tamiya Lemonene cement, because it doesn't give me headaches, but I keep around a jar of regular Tamiya Extra Thin because the brush in that is fine and thus superior.

2. WIPE OFF THE BRUSH WHEN PAINTING ON THE CEMENT!!! You need cement on both pieces, but only a tiny amount. I also like to let the pieces dry ever so slightly. Too much cement and the tiny parts drown out.

3. Keep superglue ready as a backup. In Malifaux, bad things happen, and sometimes things will come loose. Most of the time a tiny drop of Tamiya cement will fix things, but sometimes the joint surface will become porous, and the new joint will be poor. Then a tiny drop of super glue, applied with an applicator like a toothpick, is your only solution. I use something called Super Attack, but any thin cyanoacrylate will do. Don't get the gel kind!!

4. Do as much of you sanding/scraping/filing with the pieces still on their sprues. Smaller parts are much harder to handle, but they still have mould lines...

5. Never, ever, EVER, use tweezers when putting the minis together, even though it will be tempting in order to grab a tiny moustache by a pair if tweezers rather than your sausage fingers. It seems like a great idea until you squeeze a little too hard and the moustache flies through the room and embeds itself in the wall on the other side of the room. Good luck getting it out again!

6. Similarly, do your assembly over a white box (avoid grey!!), and for all that is good in the world, NEVER ASSEMBLY WYRD MINIS OVER A CARPETED FLOOR! The Carpet God WILL claim his due...

When all is said and done, you will adjust, and the payoff is well worth it. GW designs their models largely to be easy to assemble. The result is not bad (I have thousands of Citadel minis myself), but they tend to be unrealistically clumpy and with static poses (though there are notable exceptions). Wyrd minis are slender, well proportioned, realistic and with very dynamic poses, but much harder to assemble. 

Good luck!! 🙂

 

 

I'm okay with harder-to-assemble minis, it's just that some of the decisions taken on the moulds make absolutely no sense, making it far more difficult than it needs to be. Guild ball metal miniatures were some of the most dynamic I'd seen, and they didn't take me hours to put together one model.

That said, I'm very happy to hear I'm starting with the worst. lol. Only uphill from here!

On 9/23/2015 at 1:12 AM, Nosilloc said:

I think it was a mistake trying to put him together first out of the bayou gremlins. I think him and Som'er were my hardest. Som'er would have been easier if not for that belt. His belt was too big for the belt hole on mine. Had to warm it up in water to get it in and even still it wasn't easy.

I'm having the most problem with the face, it doesn't even fit together. Belt was a pain also, but the face is a whole new level of wtf. This is as bad as the metal jacks from Privateer Press.

lol I'm going through this pain right now. I cannot for the life of me wonder why anyone in QA (if there was such a thing) actually approved such an assembly process. This box has put me off the game 3x now (I've had the bayou boss box for about 18 months). I really want to play, and i really want to play gremlins, but I quit before I'm finished each time. It's ridiculous.

I take it back. The Bayou Boss himself is now the worst miniature I've ever had to assemble, in 20 years of gaming. And that's after the metal crap that was Privateer Press' jacks.

I honestly can't believe how bad some of these pieces are... Aren't they meant to be some new modern technology that they started using for these minis? Blows my mind.

2 hours ago, Trample said:

Out of curiosity, which boxes have you tired so far? Maybe by some odd twist of fate you've wound up with the most difficult of the bunch. Bayou are perhaps some of the most difficult to get together. Perhaps that makes it a bit more difficult. 

I have struggled from time to time, but overall I really don't think they're much more difficult than GW stuff. For the most part they've fit together fairly well for me, but there are certainly some boxes that present some difficulty. Bayou do tend to be on the more difficult side. 

I hope you stick with it because it is a great game. If you don't want to put them together you could always buy used (assembled) models. 

You could be right. I have the Bayou boss box, along with a few other characters. I started on the gremlins. All of these chars are 9+ pieces, I think the boss is like 15? 

Lenny was probably the easiest so far, but even he had arms that didn't quite connect properly. I've had that issue with almost all the models so far, but the little gremlins by far were the most infurating. Not looking forward to the Skeeters.

Good advice, but doesn't resolve the issue that the assembly of Wyrd miniatures is absolutely, god-hatingly horrible. 9 pieces on a gremlin for a miniature that is no bigger than 1.5" tall is absolutely ludicrous. The software they're using to break the miniatures up into these tiny pieces is horrendously flawed.

I want to voice my opinion here as this is now the 3rd time I have stopped from continuing any further. Either the models were designed for people with tiny fingers, or Wyrd are a bunch of sadistic assholes.

I really, really, really want to play Malifaux. I've bought about 5 boxes of miniatures, starting with gremlins (so, so, so much character). Every single time I make just one miniature, I end with frustration and not going any further. I've built 3 miniatures. In 6 months.

For the love of god, please resolve these assembly issues. I'm a miniature painter and gamer of over 20 years and even early GW wasn't this bad. I'd much rather superglue and pin metal miniatures than have to put together another god damn gremlin.

Please, Wyrd overlords - hear my prayers!!!!

Having a real hard time finding anyone to play games with - have asked around, checked the wargamer au forums (which seems to be just about dead as far as malifaux is concerned). 

Am wanting to start playing but am finding the lack of players disappointing.