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If you put a 30mm base model on a scheme marker covering it. Can you still put a model in base contact with the marker?

 

 

The action does have a range as Aura's have range drawn from the edge of the models base as per the rulebook

May I know where is that in the rulebook?

 

 

The Aura's range is part of the Ca action because it is an effect of the Action itself.

That's not correct I'm afraid.

 

 

Undead Crowing can be cast through the Vulture 

I don't think that is correct either.

Nicodem can draw LoS and range from the Vulture. Not the same that cast the action through it.

If you cast the action through a miniature and that action generates an aura, the aura would be generated by the miniature which you cast through, but that is not the case. I think this is where we disagree.

 

The Vulture allows you to measure LoS and Range for Ca action.  Auras are measured from 'a' model and not necessarily the model that casts it.  Undead Crowing is a Ca action meaning the Vulture can Cast it and so the Aura can be generated by, and measured from, the Vulture.

 

The Vulture don't cast the action in any moment. So he can't generate the aura.

I understand your point, Nico Cast the action using LoS and range from the Vulture, and you say that then the Vulture is generating the aura.

I don't think so, even if you use the LoS and range from the Vulture the Ca action is made by Nicodem and the aura should be on him and not the Vulture, but yep could be interpreted as you say in the way that it is write.

Nico can Draw Los and range from the Vulture for Ca actions.

Undead Crowing generates an aura from the miniature who cast the action, and that's Nicodem. The Vulture don´t generate that aura. In the other hand, the range of the action is (-) and not the 8"   of the aura, that's just the effect.

Remember that Nico can draw LoS and range from the vulture for Ca actions.

Nico is who generates the aura and cannot draw LoS or range from the vulture to affect more models with the aura.

Ok, I understand that you have to push it directly towards, (center to center), and if you push the model up to the other side of the base, you are pushing him away a bit.

But I don't think so, because once you are base to base with the model, the distance between them is 0", so you are not pushing the model away in any moment.

Maybe I'm overthinking, but make sense un muy head

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Nop, Incotporeal allows everyone to ignore that miniature moving and pushing.

In my opinion you may be able to do it.

As Dirial says, it is not the pigs activation, but maybe should end the controllers activation.

Not sure if "this model" is a reference to the pig, or the controller of the action.

But the model don't need to be in range or LoS, and the condition do not say anything about the models being in play.

the third paragraph on page 54 can be interpreted as only the conditions that occur at the end of the turn work on buried models.

But I think that is not enough to say that you cannot use powerloop, so I bet for yes you can use it.

I always play this as you can only get one point for turn.

The reason is because it say that "you may end the condition on ONE enemy".

If this would be written as: "you may end the condition on AN enemy", then would be as you say.

No Kaeris for Gen Con??

Sad

Ook, so if the LoS pass through the same piece of terrain which is within 1" of the target, then the target has cover.

My comunity has being playing this different, and I think is better the way we played, but I'll try this as the oficial ruling.

I'm reading the rule book.

The model gain the benefits of cover when any LoS between the models can be drawn through cover terrain that is within 1" of the target.

There is no LoS between A and B drawn through terrain that is within 1" of the target.

A don't have cover from B

The terrain which gives cover to the model must be within 1" from the defensor model and the LoS must pass through it. 

My interpretation from page 42.

Nice

That's interesting. So if I attack with Raspy killing a model but I trigger to take the attack again, can I do it?

Maybe to kill some more models with blast.

I don't have any opinion about this.

But maybe you can compare it with the Mr Graves ability. That is a real inmunity, but for al Wp duels. Is that inmunity to horror too?

I don't imagine the aura as a piece of scenography which moves with Lilith. She transforms that terrain within 3". So yes, she is moving through that terrain.

Anyway if a model moves and while moving touch a portion of terrain then the model is moving throug terrain.

I understand all the points in this issue.

If you think that reduce to 0 wounds is before killed, the problem is solved in the way you explained. I'm agree.

Reading faq and other moderator's answers in this forum make me think killed as an status that you get when you are at 0 wounds, and that is why reduce to 0 wounds and killed would get the same timing.

I think it is not trivial and need a clarification.

Once I am in this position about the timing question the rest of my argue is following the rules and we found complicated situations but not breaking any rule.

Said that, if this issue is not going to be FAQed, I would like a clarificatión about killed and its timing.