fengor

the latter, as it technically still is it current activation when the terror test is failed. Paralyze in the current activation just stops the current activation.

Nope, I feel every faction has their variety.

I'm with Myyrä. Specific rule wins

No Spreadsheet but pullmyfinger has some good constructs listed to loop in.

As for the bandwagon: Brewie might actually tempt me to try out Gremlins.

At least he is definately on my list for the starter draft tournament in may.

*scribbles down notes*

how does that work zfiend?

What Zfiend said

Outside their bubble normal horror rules apply. So yes, after a model passes a horror duel against a figure it is now immune for the rest of the turn/activation (not sure which) from terrifying checks against that specific miniature

Ok, important point i wasnt aware of.

Ok to recap:

General Timing rules dont apply instead using page30 from the big book.

Seamus and possible other models of mine have to go first if they are in range of the pulse as I would be first player.

Then the enemy models would take their WP tests in whatever order the Second player decides. Models failing and in 6'' to seamus make him heal 2 due to feast of fear

Thanks

do i take the WP test first if i field Seamus with the Corpse Bloat upgrade and blow up a corpse counter?

Or to clarify: can Bomber Seamus take his wp test first and if damaged heal the damage from his feast of fear?

My thinking is yes due to the general timing rules:

1. Active Model

2. Targeted Model

3. Other models of active player

4. Other models of inactive player

I admit i'm a dirty filthy belle spammer and you will see belles in 99% of my lists... Then again I play Seamus 99% of the time...

Presently the only matchup where I even consider taking models for their Terrifying is when i play against gremlins.

apart from that I find it not reliable enough. Nice Bonus if my opponent has to cheat now and then but nothing i would plan on

My strategy against Levi  would be Seamus with Red Chapel Killer.

Back Alley to a Waif. Hand Cannon to the Face. Distraction and Back Alley to safety. Later int he turn My belles will usually try to lure anchors away from waifs. Waifs are usually out of LOS i think.

Still have to find a way to deal with Ashes&Dust though

I usually run him with Sybille and Belles as a core.

doxies are summoned. CCK stays at home most of the time.

trying t mix it up with the valedictorian atm.

Plant Explosives / Spring the trap with Seamus and Bag'o'tools

requires 2-3 high cards (and soulstones if they arent tomes)

Back alley if you arent in range, then attack with melee 7 and tomes trigger to place scheme markers.

Depending on enemy distribution  you need 1-2 scheme markers for plant explosives and up to 3 for spring the trap.

Doxies and Belles are so useful in Turf war and reconnoiter as well. Need an advantage? just lure the enemie out of scoring range of the turf marker or out of the table quarter.

You dont deliver the message with Seamus. You cant interact when you used back alley anyway.

What you do is you use Sybille and a Belle or 2 Belles.

Sybille version:

Optional: Walk once, Call Belle

Use Obey on the belle to lure master into base to base with belle. Companion Belle and Deliver Message.

2 Belle Version:

First Bell lures or double lures master into engagement range. Second bell uses companion and delivers message.

Having Seamus near the enemy master makes it even more easier since it basically turns CA8 into CA10 for the lures. But even if he is not there CA8 is pretty sure to get it done if you have a high card or two. Biggest WP i faced in my Meta was WP8 on misaki so far.

Basically deliver message is an autotake for me

Yes going over the railing made him closer to the belle than the walking off to the side.

Gonna add that to the standard movement shenanigans then

Seamus is usually an easy 3VP with deliver message as well.

Entourage not so much for mea si get him killed most of the time

Situation: Enemy model is standing in sight of a Rotten Belle on HT3 terrain with a railing that is defined as Ht1 Softcover climbable.

Question 1: Can the belle lure him off the terrain?

Question 2: Does the enemy model take 3 or 4 falling damage?

My reasoning:

Q1: Yes, since it is a legal move that puts the model closest to the belle although it hurts.

Q2: 4 Damage, since he jumps off the railing.

Although regarding Q2 the case could be made that he jumps over the railing and only suffers 3 dmg.

hmm I don't like yan lo and the asian resser models that much (purely model/theme wise) but will think about it.

Budet has a bit of flex but gonna wait till the next year before expanding again anyway. Crooligans are mainly interesting to have options for the scheme running role. Although I'd prefer Necropunks or night terrors if i could get hold of the models :/

Main difficulty atm is selecting a 60SS pool for the tournament (just the models i want to hire, no summons or upgrades)

Seamus

CCK (3)

2x Belle (10)

Sybille (8)

The Valedictorian (10)

The Hanged (9)

Dead Doxy (6)

Nurse(6)

Bete Noire(8)

would be the current iteration

Current Model Count:

Redchapel Box (Seamus, CCK, Sybille, 3x RottenBelle)

Box of Rotten belles (3x Rotten Belles)

2 Performer conversions (2x Dead Doxy)

Bete Noir

Body of evidence box (Mcmourning, Sebastian, 2x nurse, Flesh Construct, Zombie Chihuaha)

University of Transmortis box (The Valedictorian, Student of Sinew, Student of Steel, Student of Viscera)

The hanged box (2x the hanged)

where to go next:

debating an old molly metal box for the crooligans or nicodems open graves starter

what adran says. They are good for casual dry erasing but i prefer sleeved as well for safetys sake.