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DGRAZ,

 

I really like your work, the attention to detail you put into painting miniatures is so impressive. The day dreams are my favorite. I kinda "dig" the mushroom idea, and may use that in the future someday. My only complaint (don't take it personally I usually have 1) is I'm not thrilled with some of your color choices.

 

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Moondog,

 

Ya this is solid work to be sure, and your crew is very well painted. I'm not sure how I fell about the green on the Ortegas, but your crews impressive.

 

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GMORT,

 

These look pretty good overall I just think you went a little dark on the colors.

 

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Spectrehorseman,

 

I really like your work overall. Anyone would be proud to put those models on the table. Your colors are fantastic and I wish I had used the red bases on my guild models.

 

I do not like your fire painting truthfully, it just doesn't appear that natural to me.

 

***As for Arkham Horror***

 

I see that board, Dunwich, Kingsport, and the Innsmouth boards about once a week for I love the game. Good luck on your Arkham-M2E project. 

 

.....YOU SAID...This is a bonus because Arkham Horror is highly customizable and you have the ability to make your own Investigators and Monsters (which I will be using the Malifaux models for down the road).

 

With 48 investigators and 200+ monsters I don't see why this is even necessary, but enjoy.

 

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DGRAZ,

 

As for my models thank you for the comment, so few people comment unless your stuff painted at like a godly level. I don't get it. I know I'm not the best painter ever, but my Justice Crew I posted so long ago was pretty rad with super cool conversions and only 4 people had anything to say about them...kinda wild. I even posted models in the gallery and nothing. Oh well I guess time for me to comment on some art.

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Well even though I'm very unhappy with M2E, I have decided to finish all my guild models and at least have a presence on the showcase and albums gallery. That way I can show my work and respect others skill at painting models. I was a fan of 1.5 and haven't really played since 2.0. I'm thinking about getting back into the game. Here are my Ortegas....

 

 

Hope that worked.....

 

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With the locking of posts/threads "when they get heated" and now the "were moderating" nonsense it's easy to see the top dogs just don't wanna hear "it" anymore. It's all too common to see this type of behavior in the world around you. It's ok to disagree, as long as you do so quietly, respectfully and out of the way of others. If you interfere with "business as usual" with your opinion the "heavy hand" of censorship isn't far behind. I guess everyone just love each other, hug, and play M2E...the bastard child of a system that didn't suck soul stones. Can I still say these things?

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Well it's easy for me to say I told people so, I've been an outspoken enemy of M2E sense the first ideas were released. Lets see why below...seeing this through guild eyes.

1. Stripped down masters and henchmen with upgrades can often be more or less the same except your now getting kicked in the soul and paying S.S.s for abilities worse then you had for free. You also get the added bonus of managing more cards, ya didn't it suck to have all the info on 1 card?

2. New stupid rules like charging giving 2 attacks...(so lame) I wanna move about 1 1/2 times my walk and get a +damage flip personally.

3. All the cool stuff that made the game unique from all the other miniature games out there is pretty much gone. Almost all the traits that made the game interesting are gone. Paired Weapons, Specific Aps (Melle, Ranged, Casting Experts) got blocked into 1 Ap, Magic Weapons are gone so Spirits are lame now, Slow to die, (Judges) Never Me, (Peacekeepers) Relentless, the family trait...and on and on. Sometimes its the little things like the Peacekeepers Faulty Circuits that add fun to the game, but all that kind of stuffs gone now.

4. The new V.P. system was the biggest letdown of all time. I hated the old system but now I have to keep track of V.P. each round and at the end of the game (Lame.) Also now people drop schemes tokens which is a poor system, are there not enough tokens in the game already Rezers?

Well I could go on and on but its pointless, I hate M2E and people already know this. About everyone wanted a balancing, but I just wanted a better balanced 1.5. All in all the time they wasted creating a new poorly running system could have been far better spent fixing and balancing an already great system.

1 Mans opinion....

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Dangit Madbobby I was going to say they are Kitana, Mileena, and Jade, but you had to say it first. I'm an MK hor myself and suggest you try the newest MK for sure. It a great fighting game with all the old characters, and better moves and graphics. It helps us get into the new game by keeping the old feel if that makes sense. As for your models well there awesome...I love MK. Although I hate when people post unfinished models so you lose Kredits for that.

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Just wondering why quitting is a better option over playing "Against all odds still play Malifaux 1.5" as the poll has it?

Personally I am a bit disappointed that the local scene around me has opted heavily for 2.0, but that just means the frequency of my games is dropping way (way way way) down from before 2.0. I am even getting in a game of good old Malifaux Classic today.

NIX: hello bud, well here is why. With the small group of Malifaux players in my area and our local henchmen decision to go to M2E, is it even worth my time (Which isn't even that valuable) to fight for 1.5 games? My store isn't close so to gather my guild army and trek down there for the chance that someone wants to play 1.5 over the new 2.0 just isn't worth it. You even said that "...the frequency of my games is dropping way (way way way) down from before 2.0...", well how long until that becomes not at all? My hatred for M2E is so complete I cant stand even my own crew (Justice). People like M2E and well, right on I guess. I hate 2.0 and well play 1.5 if I can even find any 1.5 players. I'm no one special, I'm one of the small percentage they lost in the edition change. If most like 2.0 and they get new players good for the game and awesome for the players.

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You also have to assume that the majority of the people that will actually see this poll are for it. The people that hate M2E have probably already abandoned the forums.

True. Quit playing Malifaux is really the only option up there for some of us now. I'm only on the forums now to show my appreciation for peoples painting skill in the Miniature showcase. If people were to sit back and be forced to tell the truth (something so rare in this stupid world) I bet most would just say they wanted a better version of 1.5 with some minor tweaks for balance. M2E is nothing like what I wanted.

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Waldergiest - Armour 2 and forest shenanigans, in a 6 SS minion, I don't take these nearly enough.

With Marcuses (Defend Me) Defense Trigger Waldergiests make Marcus nearly invincible to defense duels. If you get hit its almost always a negative flip then the low damage is transferred to the Waldergiest where its 2 less for armor...yep do that all day.

Oh don't forget to charge in with Strength of the Eagle from (Upgrade) Gods Domain and hit 2 of their guys (Making them Beasts) and be nearly invincible in melee.

I'm actually going to address this issue in the main M2E form.

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Soipha,

I really like your crew, good color choices with accurate painting overall. I do hate the werewolf though, I just can't buy the pink color you used for the skin. I would have gone with a more natural base of gray or brown, maby redish-brown. The wings on Kaeris are easily some of the best painted wings I have ever seen.

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Ausplosions: Thank god...I'm actually glad you posted after me...again. I first thought your sarcastic and rude posts were trolling, but now I realize I misidentified them and overlooked your desperate pleas for attention. I have worked with many troubled and neglected teens and I accept full responsibility for my misdiagnosis. Such sarcastic and rude behavior comes from a much darker place in the soul, a void harboring parental neglect and lack of love in life....and I now want to help you.

I ask for the people on the forms that would just ignore Ausplosions as usual to pay extra attention to him as a favor for me, because this could be the only social outlet he really has.

Ausplosions: Please continue to follow me around and post many comments however you choose so that we can monitor your progress and make sure your "not at risk." I would ask that you let it all out and perhaps we can begin to repair some of the damage. I make no guaranties and this will not happen overnight, but I have FAITH IN YOU.

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How wild I have my Rage sets under my bed right now like 2000-2500 cards probably. Me and some friends, back in the day house ruled the hell out of the game to make it a game we all loved and will never forget. I made 4 identical combat decks for each player to use and we had strict balance rules for deck construction....good times. Times change people move away/on oh well...just like the dying of M1E and M1.5E for the god awful M2E I guess.

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I know a lot of people are excited about M2E, but I'm not. Perhaps I want to be the first to say, "I told you all so", but I play this game as well so if I'm right we all lose. I liked 1.5 and the sweeping changes in 2.0 I fell are extreme and unnecessary. I guess well see soon enough.

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This is a copy of 1 of my posts from another thread, but it tell how I fell about the V.P. conditions.

Worst V.P. scoring ever...me about a year ago, they need to change the V.P. system so that hidden schemes are worth more and anouncing is maby 1/4 of the total. They should go for max V.P. being 3 and announcing being and extra 1. Hidden schemes are almost pointless since 1 announced success is (Usually) worth 2 hidden. Also they need to rebalance schemes as it seemed like steal candy from a baby 2 V.P.s or fistfight a great white in the deep ocean 2 V.P.s have the same points allowed but slightly different dificulties (The slightly exaggerated example I kept saying). Anyway they addressed the issue which is awesome and no one will believe a year ago I complained anyway, so we all win. For the love of god M2E drop the "distract" individual and shared strats, they make the worst games I've ever played.

Well there you have it 1 of the only things in M2E I'm looking forward to is the new V.P. system.

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Killjoke,

I really like your conversions alot. I think I respect them more because like you I did some minor conversions to my Justice crew I posted not to long ago. The conversions help to give your figures a unique feel, and fix things that look rediculious. The poncho is awesome, and I'm excited to see how well it paints up.

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Mike3838: Thank you I did mean "distract", that was a poor oversight on my part. Ya I ment the scoring system up till M2E. The new V.P. system for M2E is the best thing I've read so far.

Adran: I don't see them making you play your own box, don't worry. As for "Finish the Job" believe me Justice pretty much never gets it and heres some reasons why. In the order I think is right.

1. When its your turn to go you pretty much have to activate Justice 1st to drop threats before they bomb on you.

2. Its not really worth the 1 A.P. the marshals are usually shooting.

3. People will give you anything before they attack Justice by going to her, so you always have to go to them. I mean anything their girlfriend, unborn child, their car, their house, their own hide, I mean its freaken redicilious I swear they will not rush her.

Forar: I agree with all your post. I know its not a bug, I just like the thought of division unity. Like soldiers you don't see an army general on the field saying, "Ya Im just running Navy guys today." For a while I though Nino was a master because I saw him in every guild crew, but I don't see this issue ever changing so it whatevers.

Micahwc: True, bad hand draw are a part of the game, but their doing something with the S.S. card draw anyway so I though my option was better overall...but it scaled at like 50/50 more or less a standoff.

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Allan,

Dude you have a neat little crew I dig it, I really love the bases very creative. Wheres the other day dream?

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Well I think the S.S. hand debate has about run its course. It was interesting to see peoples opinions on it. I still feel the option to drop a bad hand for a S.S. would be a great 1, and people would use it but whatevers. Someone said what if you get like 1 or 2 high cards (Sorry I don't have your name). Ya then you wouldn't us it. I mean I think some people would even be willing to gamble with only 1...7 or 1...8, I would. As for the card attrition of the 2 card draw, Im not following it. Isn't dropping 6 cards better attrition then dropping 2 for 1 S.S.? Anyway the whole point was If you get screwed with a bad draw you have a chance, and some like it some hate it....HHmmm standoff. This issue was not that close to my heart, I just liked it. I was listing like this...

1. My games changing...and I'm not happy with all I've heard. (This knocked the old 1 down to 2 at M2E announcemnet)

2. Worst V.P. scoring ever...me about a year ago, they need to change the V.P. system so that hidden schemes are worth more and anouncing is maby 1/4 of the total. They should go for max V.P. being 3 and announcing being and extra 1. Hidden schemes are almost pointless since 1 announced success is (Usually) worth 2 hidden. Also they need to rebalance schemes as it seemed like steal candy from a baby 2 V.P.s or fistfight a great white in the deep ocean 2 V.P.s have the same points allowed but slightly different dificulties (The slightly exagerated example I kept saying). Anyway they addressed the issue which is awesome and no one will believe a year ago I complained anyway, so we all win. For the love of god M2E drop the "distract" individual and shared strats, they make the worst games I've ever played.

3. They need to make you play models from your box crew...As Justice is my declared master the fact I have little to no synergy with martials is funny. As an example I kinda wish Justice had to run 3 martials, Sonnia had to run 3 stalkers, Perdita had to run 3 family to promote division stability, but whatevers.

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As for my Page 8 post I was respectively asked to step back from that issue, so since I was becoming tired of warring over it anyway Im done with it. My words and concern are there, judge them as you see fit. Thank you all for the debate over the issue, and I will speak no more on it in this post.

As for my new card draw idea here we go...

Ausplosions: I disagree if the highest card in your hand is a 4, 5, or 6 Id do it for a S.S.

Forar: Ya I'll take your 3 and raise you to 6 bud the average is 7 0-14 card span so If you got 1..6 and the next highest is say 4, I'll bet most people would be willing to pay a S.S. to drop there whole hand and get 6 new cards. Yes its a gamble but Id do it.

Adran: Please see top paragraph.

Mike3838: HHHmm...maby the ability would be rarely used, but I'm not so sure. I think people believe the ability would be rarely used because they dont have it now. I play Malifaux alot with my best friend and there have been countless times after a draw for fun or out of anger at a bad draw we would reveal our hand and the highest card was like 5 or 6 maby 1...7 but I play alot. You are right though 2 more random card may help fix your hand, but I can't see people spending a S.S. on a random 2 more cards and thats why it feels goofy to me UNLESS see Scuttlebut below

Scuttlebut: Maby Scuttlebut although now that you can spend a S.S. to spells to get the suit and who knows what else, the suit dependent issue might not even be an issue anymore. As for the S.S. for an extra 2 card draw the only time I see it happening is when your master and henchmen are down and you have them to waste, but well see. As for your words

..."my master does everything" and more "my crew works well as a cohesive unit."...this is very accurate for the most part, although the S.S. and other changes making the crew more cohesive unit assessment...ya I feel your reaching. It becomes a matter of opinion as some people will say there whole crew is already a cohesive unit while someone else playing that same crew my say they only need the master for the most part. I think your getting at by making masters weaker the crew becomes more important, ya I agree with that.

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*You can also now use a stone in the draw phase to draw and discard an extra 2 cards*

Ya Im not feeling this at all, it just feels goofy. Lets do this instead...

*After you draw your cards you can use a S.S. to disgard your whole hand and draw an equal number of cards*

This is a better idea

If you draw a bad hand you get another chance. If you draw a good hand you roll as you are. if you draw a hand on the fence...well I guess you make a tactical call then and there. I cant see drawing 2 extra random cards fixing a bad hand, but I can see drawing 6+ new card having a greater effect on a bad hand and better balancing the game by balancing the hand draw..or having a better chance of balancing the hand draw. Another weird issue is might help to eliminate is this, you draw really well and drawing 2 extra cards makes an even stronger monster hand.

Anyway where would people be at with the new hand S.S. change as to the 2 card S.S. change?

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This game doesn't have the fan base of bigger games like 40K and others and this change could bring down the house on me and meny others. I won't be able the say hay lets just play 1.5 because people will just not show. As for the beta testing I have never seen a beta test work. The company already thinks their ideas are great and thats why they put them foward. I can't say if its ego, the money invested, the time invested, or if they don't care enough to say they were wrong, but out of 50 testers if 51 don't say theres an issue its a done deal. Also I have to have enough faith in the testers that they will go to bat against whats wrong and not sit idly by with all the new eye candy infront of them. Then they will have to war with the supporters with blinders on who are just willing to say its great no matter whats the truth to support the company...which I respect, but its also too bad.

2.0s already a go....but well see soon enough.

Anyway I hope I'm wrong and the new system rocks sock, everyone by this point can already see I care about the game and am worried at what we have been told. I have a lot of well painted models (My opinion of course) and I would hate to see dust build on them.

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Ausplosions: Im done warring with you, theres no reason the truth is already in our posts. My post is on page 8 and most people reading it can comperhend the issue and at least see what I was getting at even if they understand a fix might be in 2.0. Your cry doom post is on page 9 and overdramitizes my post which you quote me with little to no constructive imput. When both are read I'm sure only you and your little doom groupies think I don't have a valid concern.

Jonas Albrecht: The fact I have to type this to you is more shameful then constructive. I did indeed use the 1.5 master info with my example on page 8. Wow how do I even go about this...ah the 2.0 master info isn't out yet (you still with me?). I needed to use info for my example (you still with me?). I used the info available for my post which is 1.5 info (you still with me?). Maby 2.0 will fix stats, maby they wont, it made no difference for my concern when typed at the time.

Nix: I hear you about the you can choose 2.0 or 1.5 issue, but heres where I'm at with that. Once 2.0 becomes the standand small groups will eigher quit playing if they hate it or only wanna play the tournament 2.0. 1.5 will be no more and that just the way it is.

Mike3838: I hear you saying the biggest changes are upgrades and soulstones and I agree with you. I feel that you not being able to spend a S.S. with your master to add 0-14 points and another suit to your duel total is a drastic change. So meny things are changing just the makeover can be considered drastic...or light depending on who you talk to.

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