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3 hours ago, Yew Arcane said:

Sure they can. Just not in official Wyrd events. Because rules don't always match lore.

Which is stupid. If you want an RPG, Through the Breach is thataway.

Fluff shouldnt drive the game, particularly since individual games don't match fluff. I mean, how are you still using any of the models I killed in my games? Because fluff uber alles makes soooo much sense in a shared game where you personally may kill the same unique model over and over in an individual tournament. This reeks of 90's RPG design where mediocre writers insisted on railroading their meta story down your throat.

Again, if the DMH models are balanced, they should be allowed by default. Moreover, don't cut off support for those themes and keywords for future development. Otherwise, yes, you did invalidate 3/4 of my masters.  

2 hours ago, LeperColony said:

I've found this sentiment to be very common, and I've never really understood it.  Yes, Wyrd is signaling that DMH isn't going to get the kind of support offered to "active" models, but they remain fully playable.  I personally don't know anyone who would refuse to play against them casually, and while it wouldn't surprise me to learn most events won't allow them, certainly some will.

If it's not a big deal, then you shouldnt be opposed to the reverse situation, where DMH are allowed by default and only banned in RP oriented events. 

On 8/8/2019 at 1:08 AM, solkan said:

Well, if you don't mind bluntness, the changes weren't made to benefit you, specifically, as a player.

It's basically the gaming equivalent of "We're building a public library/airport, and your house is located on the prime spot for it.  The city planners discussed the alternatives, and this is the plan they had the funding for."[/quote]

If you don't mind MY bluntness, it's a stupid fluff injection brought about by a small group of fans intent on cramming THEIR story in. The far better alternative would be to NOT invalidate 3 of my 4 Neverborn masters, and keep the little RP tea party in special events only. If the game can handle the same unique models on both sides of the table, it can handle a battle featuring allegedly dead/imprisoned/missing masters. It's not a RPG anyways. 

Not only are the DMH masters less balanced, they also won't be receiving any future development. Pretty crappy for losing a small online popularity contest run in an echo chamber. Hopefully they ruin your collection or favorite master next. 

18 hours ago, admiralvorkraft said:

Okay, but by doing nothing they "invalidate" competitive play whereas this way you still have perfectly "valid" rules for your models in casual and semi-competitive settings.

I played casual MtG for years, the changing format didn't somehow "invalidate" any of my purchases. 

It takes a hell of a lot less time and effort to open a pack and sleeve a card than get a figure on the tabletop. Mini rotations would kill 3rd edition.

Really displeased with this. I went from four Neverborn masters to now one. Assuming you don't decide to have a little RP tea party and vote to kill that one too. Keep your meta-plot in the stories. It shouldn't invalidate my past purchases and the countless hours I spend assembling and painting models for use, not to mention ensuring that their crews get no future support.

If the DMH masters are balanced for tournament use, have them only be excluded from a select few story events. As it stands you have unique characters fighting each other, characters who get killed off in battles reappearing in the next tournament round, etc. This isn't an RPG, and moreover, you HAVE an RPG for this sort of thing.

Regular Hannah is so much worse. Softer detail, no censor, meh pose, poor leg design on the mech, etc. 

http://themostexcellentandawesomeforumever-wyrd.com/topic/102884-updated-unboxing-hannah-friekorps-archivist-through-the-breach-version/

Whats annoying is that  I actually backed TTB, but due to the awkward rewards tiers, I was forced to pick between her, or a hardback rules book (or pay $100 extra and get both and a bunch of stuff I didnt need). She should have been an add on. It would have been nice to at least let backers buy one later, given how long we waited (and I still never received all my pledge). 

Scotia Grendel makes some small metal ones that would work.

http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=256
http://www.scotiagrendel.com/Products/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=43&products_id=257

I'm also not a fan of the dorky tadpole. The one eating the illuminated looks pretty great, shame the same level of care wasn't used on what is the crew's centerpiece. 

For those looking for something a little more grisly, Euynome works well with what the HD actually does, locking its victims in a cycle of addiction. I thought about replacing the claws with syringes, but it might be a little too on the nose. 

Reaper's Gravewailer also has potential, depending on size. If smaller, its probably ending up as my second Insidious Madness.

What's annoying was you couldn't even add her during the campaign. I backed for the hardbacks (which I STILL havent received), and the only way to get here was to throw in an extra hundred bucks for some junk I didn't need/want. 

I'm really hoping these become available somehow. Normal Hannah isnt doing it for me. 

... But I did not say it was wrong, I just pointed out a random fact that Wyrd had said it was actually her skin, and not cloth as most people think it is. Where in that sentence did I say it was wrong of him to paint it as cloth? O_o

 

 

Wyrd can say its skin all they want, and I'll file it away in the same category as "Greedo always shot first, you just didn't notice because of.... uhh... cropping". My guess is someone painted the towel "flesh" colored for the card/book and they rolled with it and made it cannon. The original mini's art had it clearly as a towel (and its looks to be separate from her on the new one too), To me, it looks silly as skin, since its the wrong size, shape, and really makes no sense of what she's doing with it.

When I give advice, I try and keep it within the person's skill level to something relatively easily achievable. A baby step up if you will. So I'm not going  to say "hey, that cloak is a pretty flat area, why don't you do some free hand on it" when they're struggling with basic shading. 

If you have an airbrush you could use something like Spaz Stix mirror chrome paint. Back with black and its reflective. 

Sue is not the chunkiest Wyrd metal but he is still chunky in my book. He is certainly not a model that would pull me into Malifaux like the plastic kits did. Some Infinity metals are not that chunky, but they are multipart.

 

 

The thing is, models like that look good on the table in  play because you can actually see detail and facial features.  CAD truescales mostly look good when blown up to 10 times their size on a computer monitor or held 4 inches in front of your face. 

The original Seamus is still the best version. The plastic doesn't come close.

And how. Pretty much all the masters are worse in plastic. Wyrd's sculptors stopped exaggerating facial features (or not enough to account for plastic shrinkage), so you end up with the same copy-paste faces across the line. Look at the multiplart sprue's. Everyone has the same boring flat affect facial expression with a nonexistant nose and a slit for a mouth. Hair/fur and lots of cloth detail on plastic is particularly soft due to weak undercuts. 

Plastic is far better to assemble, aside from the lightweight material leading to some poor design choices that wouldnt have been made in metal or with a real sculpt vs CAD render (Hanging trees ropes which are broken before you take them off the sprue). And it takes paints better, provided you only use glazes to account for the soft detail. Its great for grunts and big things, but for medium masters or henchmen, the detail on the best metal sculpts beat the pants off the best plastics. 

Better still would be resin, but that ship has sailed. At least I managed to snag most of the metal line so I can pick and choose which sculpts end up being better. 

I really want to get a crew of a bunch of desperate mercenaries  and pigs lead by Old Major. Just how down on their luck are those guys to follow a pig? And how did they negotiate their pay?

Their prices haven't changed. These are bonus free models. It is a lot of cash but you're not paying for them

Eh, you effectively are in the extra % from buying direct at retail vs. another online store. Which is totally fine. Extra money goes to fund such sculpts/molds/etc. Its not like Games Workshop which gets more from direct sales and offers such tantalizing rewards such as... a slightly different holiday shipping box!

Its likely in part because plastic molds are so much more expensive - ordinarily you make that up on volume, but that's less likely on LE's. I really wish they'd do limited/nightmare editions in metal or resin to help control costs.

Hope the metal carver shows up... I'd totally forgotten about the sale last year so I missed out on it.

The waiting reminds me of going to an amusement park as a kid. Too excited to get to the destination to really concentrate on anything else

Are we there yet?

Sorry folks, park's closed. The moose shoulda told you at the front. 

A question, in case Wyrd does not put the things I need to start on sale - does anyone know of other places that might put Malifaux on Black Friday sale? I watch CoolMiniorNot, other suggestions will be appreciated. Need someplace that ships internationally.

Both Miniature Market and The Warstore will be having sales and offer international shipping. 

I should have specified, the ones with the short, thick white handle bases are the ones I grabbed. There are some longer ones that haven't held up as good. I'd initially grabbed some as essentially throwaways to help teach some friends to paint, but was surprised how well they worked.

Not sure how WYRD feels to linking auctions/other sales so I refrained. 

I would honestly stay away from expensive brushes if you're just starting out. You're going to get paint in the ferrule, not clean it properly, etc. 

I've taken to use detail sable hair nail brushes they use for freehand in salons... you can get a pack of 3 off ebay for roughly $1.50 shipped. You get the equivalent of a 0, .00 and .000 spotter/liner.  Yeah, your $40 windsor newton will last longer, but at 50 cents, I get good results and don't have to pamper it.  

I'm a fan of P3 paints, Army Painter, and Secret Weapon/Army Painter inks/washes. I tried vallejo model color a few years ago, but their coverage and consistency was just terrible, essentially a snot consistency glaze with globs of pigment that wouldn't disperse no matter how much I shook em. Any light color also had a chalky look after it dried.

I recently ended up with a bottle of the game color that I tried out, and seemed to work better, so maybe they changed the formula for the game color line. Either way, the model color in my experience would not have been beginner friendly.

In terms of helping to actually move them during play, I bought a bunch of 3mm thick MDF bases and glued them to the underside of all my bases. The extra thickness helps me actually pick them up by the base with my clumsy fat fingers.

Those guys should transport fine in your standard pluck foam tray. 

I also think fewer SKU's are a good call. In particular, I wish the generic faction totem and the effigy would have been bundled together. In addition to it being easier on retailers and Wyrd (less specific inventory to track), it tends to benefit the consumer. The single figure boxes run $11 bucks for 1 figure, whereas the price per figure in the other minion boxes tends to be $6 - $8. Since plastic molds are expensive, it makes more sense to optimize what you get out of each one. Sure, more complex molds/sprues cost more to tool, but less than doing separate ones for each figure. 

The females work in some rather bizarre ways. Their torsoes and hands are actually smaller than the males' and heads are about the same size. But the ladies have legs that just won't quit.

 It helps if you snip off the bit of ankle/calf and glue their boots directly to the pants. That takes 2-3 mm off them. It also makes them look better, as the pants look like weird highwaters otherwise. 

What I don't like is being told "well they're for a different game, so it doesn't matter what size they are".  Wyrd (and pretty much every mini company) has had scale issues come up - the original plastic ronin, the kneeling samurai, the gigantic flesh golem victim. I'm painting some Union Miners and those guys are crazy big as well.

Just admit the goof, and fix it when you can (like the did with the ronin). But don't try and spin it that I'm wrong to have a concern.

Both "Dead Birds" and "The Burrowers" are great western horror for something set in one of the mining towns outside the city proper. Dead Birds in particular for if a bunch of bank robbers holed up in a house with Pandora after a heist. 

Is there any way to get a replacement plastic part? My Ramos' head from the M&SU box is essentially just a blob. Thanks!