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Okay, I ended up picking up both Viks, the Von Schill boxset, and Taelor. I am also getting my LGS to order a student of conflict for my sideboard, but won't have that for a week or so. For now, I'm thinking about playing 25 and 35 ss games and was wondering what the best learning lists would be with what I have. I'm thinking this for the Viks: 25 SS Viks + 6 SS Cache Von Schill Freikorps Trapper Freikorpmann (maybe take this guy out and put the student of conflict in when it arrives? That would give the Viks an 8 SS Cache) 30 SS Viks + 8 SS Cache Von Schill Freikorps Librarian Freikorps Trapper And this for Von Schill: 25 SS (basically just his boxset) Von Schill + 3SS Freikorpmann Freikorpmann Freikorps Librarian Freikorps Trapper Freikorps Specialist And then for 30 SS game I would just take out one Freikorpmann and add in Taelor. This would give VS 4 SS instead of 3. Thanks!

Okay guys, I'm going to go with the Viks or Kirai. If I go witht he Viks is it better to buy the Von Schill box or just Von Schill and the Librarian? The box will be about $18 more then just buying the 2 models, which I have no problem with if I'll be able to get use out of them. I'm thinking about getting the following if I go with Viks: Viks x2 Convict Gunslinger x1 Ronin x3 (one clamshell) Von Schill and Librarian -or- Von Schill box Does picking up Taelor, Student, and a Desperate Merc really expand what I can do with the Viks or is what I have up there good enough? Thanks!

Thanks for all of the replies so far. This has been extremely helpful . I think I will hold off on playing the Dreamer or Hamelin simply because many have mentioned that other Master's will help me grasp the core rules and mechanics better. And Calmdown is right, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I pick up another faction/master (or three ). I've recently taken a look at the Kirai models and think they look really cool as well. How would you compare her playstyle, etc. to Seamus and the Viks. Would she fall into the Hamelin category as too advanced/specialized to get a firm grasp on the game with? Between three original choices, I've narrowed it down to Seamus and the Viks now and am pretty much leaning towards going with the Viks since that seems to be what everyone is suggesting (unless you guys think Kirai would be better). Do any of these Master's excel at winning on scenario/schemes opposed to attrition? Most of my warmachine armies focus on attrition and the idea of winning via VP opposed to just out killing the other person seems really cool to me.

Thanks for the replies guys! To answer your question, I mainly play Cryx (and have started Legion). I was attracted to Cryx because of their assassination focused playstyle and the fact that their casters looked awesome. Legion attracted me because I got tired of playing infantry machine and wanted a beast heavy faction that hit hard and had some decent ranged options. Yeah, All of the scenarios and objectives are what are really attracting me to malifaux. The deck mechanics and the lower model count seem pretty cool as well. Todd, The Vics attracted me due to the fact that they look like they have some movement shenanigans that would be cool for objective taking. You say that they aren't super powerful by themselves, but with the proper crew they can be competitive. Do you think that Seamus and Lady J are more powerful as Masters, but don't have as many good options for their crews? I also agree that players should play what they want to play and not worry about what other people say (My local meta is really cool about that, but at Templecon as a cryx player, a win was never a win, It's a "Privateer Press should balance your faction better") Koali, When you say the Vics are lacking magic support do you mean that they have nothing to deal with magical enemies? or that they don't have a ton of spell slingers? Will this be problematic for me? Also, with Seamus and having a ton of crews ignore his cool abilities, what does that leave him with? Just his basic attacks and his crew? Thanks again for the quick replies! ---------- Post added at 03:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 AM ---------- Sounds more and more like I should go with the Viks. Malifaux seems like a game that I can eventually own a few masters from different factions with since you don't need as many models (and can make up being short by starting with extra soulstones). I know when I was looking at Lady J. I saw the Convict Gunslinger with her as well so it is appealing to me that the models in the Vics group seem to get use outside of the outcast faction. Would you say that both of the Viks excel in melee more than ranged? Just by looking at the models themselves (still waiting for the updated rulebook and the two expansion books to come in the mail so I don't have access to stats) it seems like one is ranged and the other is melee. I thought that would create a pretty cool dynamic if that's the case. I guess if they are both melee based, it makes sense why a lot of their core crew (ronin, convict, hans) seem to be ranged.

Hi All, I'm a warmachine player who has recently decided to take the plunge into Malifaux. The models are just too cool looking to pass up . I'm having some trouble choosing a master (even after reading the pullmyfinger wiki) and thought that the community could help me. I'm mainly looking for a Master that will allow me to learn the game, but also play well at competitive levels. Originally, I was interested in Hamelin and the Dreamer. However, after talking to a Malifaux player at my LGS I was told that both of those Masters make the game unfun for other players and are definitely not good learning masters. The other three I am interested in are: Lady J: I really like the look of the Death Marshalls that come in her starter set, but am worried that her playstyle is a bit basic and won't fair too well in tournament play. The Vickies: It just seems awesome to have two models as Masters. I also like the look of a lot of their support models (Convict, Ronin) Seamus: He seems like a pretty awesome Master. Hard to kill and with a kick ass gun. However, I'm not too fond of the look of his support crew. Out of these three masters (and others I may have missed), what do you think works well for a new player, but is able to perform equally well in the hands of an experienced player. Thanks!!