Black Joker :(

Necro I disagree... Ryle works wonderful with Lucius and if you've never seen Ryle do any damage, then you've never flipped or held a high ram in your hand or you may have just had him a little too far north on the field... Trust me, Necro, and anyone else, try this list I posted, I faced it, it hurts...

Oh I forgot to explain... Rusty can trigger head shot, Ryle can Gatling gun (trigger), JD drops a no cheat aura / triggers heart stop, Levi can cast someone to death or punch for 12 DMG, canine remain is there to provide a corpse for waif #2... Enjoy

Levi Rusty Al Ryle Jack Daw Canine Remain 2 Waifs Look at your opponent and say good game

Yes you were a help +1

Ok so I got a good game in using the list Magic posted: Hamelin CR x3 Rat Catcher Mofo Rat x2 Wretch Terror Tot Nix 8 ss I played against a Seamus 'I lure you list' Mission flipped was recon, I at that For schemes I took bodyguard Hamelin and grudge. Long and short in my opening hand I drew a 9 and 13 of Masks so I got grow off quickly on the tot, had a mature on turn 3, and just threw that into a cluster of belles and a convict gunslinger... My opponent didn't like that. I had nix the rat catcher and rats pester one flank, I had the CR run around to claim / contest... I won completing both schemes and thanks to understanding the souless I made enough guys on his side insignificant so I won a few quarters as well... All in all it is a solid list, I had no clue what I was doing and I still got the win!

Wow... I didn't get the models / cards in for tot / young / CR so I didn't test but I will lol and I don't know who to ignore lol

Cereal, get ready! The order for the missing parts is being placed as soon as I get off of this train

So have tot kill rat, attempt to grow, use Hamelin to have tot kill another rat so that on turn 2 a young tot can kill another rat, have 2 counters, attempt to mature... Sounds risky and a little slow if you are using CR as they are on the faster side... My concern would be either this plan taking too long to develop while say my opponent grabs objectives or the dependency on high masks... Cereal, testing, saturday... Also picking up the extra minis isn't too much of a worry, I got paid today

Sure thing thanks for the advice! I'll try it out this weekend and post back what I find. I'll try a game with the tot and another with either a 4th CR or a stolen.

Do you find the tot worth it? I mean it takes up until turn 3 to grow to mature... Unless you run 2 tots...

Magic, do you start with rats or CR, and I'm assuming if you want stones you start with 1 catcher?

How would I be in range turn 1?

List 1 was Lucias with Ryle, 2 austringers, 2 guild guard, his totem, and drill sgt. I don't remember what else, anyway he would throw 4 birds, use Lucias and totem to buff them and make them throw more... Every turn he could throw 8 birds and then Ryle... List 2 was Sonia, 1 austringer, nino, gunslinger, 2 witch stalkers, and 2 guild guard I think... He kept close to Sonia for the 3 inch bubble of no spells and just kept shooting...

In this strategy, would you also run CR, or just rats?

So first off, I am new to Hamelin. I play the Vicks and got them down. So the group of guys I play with regularly wants to get ready to play in some 35 ss tourneys, and since I already play outcasts, I got to scrap together a Hamelin list since a lot of tournaments would see a player or 2 with this guy, everyone wants to be ready for it. Now I see a few lists that use Canine Remains, but I didn't have the models, and was unsure of the basic strategy. Long story short, I played v. Guild and got killed by range... I ran the following: Hamelin the Plagued Nix, the Bull Terrier Rat-Catcher x2 Stolen x3 Obedient Wretch Rats x3 1 Soul Stone The Guild player (using 2 different lists) had Convict Gunslinger, Ryle, and (in one list 2, another he only had 1)Austringer the annoying guy who throws birds 18 inches and ignores LoS... So I went with the general strategy of: Action 1: Move rats 5 inches Action 2: Move catcher 8 inches, 0 action, kill all rats, making new swarm Action 3: Move new Rats 5 inches Action 4: Move a Stolen with that rat swarm Action 5: Hamelin moves 5 inches, sacs that Stolen (making a rat), and makes a new Stolen Action 6: Move catcher #2 8, kill rats, get new swarm Action 7: Move Nix 10 inches, 0 Action, move rats 3 inches toward enemy Now at this point, no one on his side is insignificant, his Ryle strolls up using Socially Repressed, then moves, then shoots a catcher, or an Austringer or 2 toss a bird 18 and hits catcher... Thanks to the armor, he probably only takes 1-2 damage, but all the triggers with Ryle, or focused fire from those things kills catcher or leaves hime with 1 maybe 2 hp... Action 8: Send rats in to attack whatever I was aiming for Action 9 & 10: Move Stolen up Action 11: Draw a card with Wretch, move 4 up My question is, am I doing anything glaringly wrong here? I don't get how people are spreading insignificant so quickly... Little help?