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Bigkid, your Hanged conversion is fantastic!

Problem with conversions is that I'm a terrible, terrible modeler and painter. Truly terrible. So I paint'em up really simple and just enjoy the paint job of all my friend's models.

I never even considered using the Crew Creation. Thanks a lot, answers it perfectly!

Hmmm, I may consider the ronin and I do like Calmdown's suggestion of Molly Schill (my local group is all over that sort of proxy/conversion stuff).

Currently, I've just been using CCK as a quick and easy teleport for Seamus when needed and occasionally trying for Seamus' scheme.

Do Guild Austringers and Guild Guard gain the "Guardsman" characteristic?

I read all through Rising Powers and I searched the errata section at Malifaux.com and the forums ("Guardsman", "Characteristic", "Trait", "Keyword") so I hope my search-fu isn't weak and it's just not around.

The only non-Bell, non-Horror models I'm willing to add are undead women (such as Bete Noir). I am fully aware I'm restricting myself but I have other crews for "competitive" play, this is my purely fluffy army.

So, I want to collect a very thematic Seamus crew: Seamus (and aSeamus), Sybelle, Rotten Belles, Dead Doxies, Copycat Killer, Bete Noire (She's undead and female. Works for me) and maybe some of Molly's Horrors.

So, from everything I've read on the forums, should I just get used to not winning? I would rather have a fluffy list over a competitive one and I'm okay with losing but I just want to double-check my odds. My local meta includes Dreamer, Kirai, Perdita w/Von Schill, Zoraida, Hoffman, and Leveticus.

Bring back Wyrd Chronicles!

My group was actually discussing the story developments last night and one of the things we touched on was how, even though the fluff is evolving and the story and characters changing and growing, it never invalidates any Masters or changes how they play. In fact, all it's done for us so far is make some of the players want to do really fluffy team games (Marcus and McMourning, Leveticus and Zoraida, etc.).

Knowing where you were coming from and why you made the decisions you did makes Twisting Fates so much better in retrospect. Thanks again for the insights, Nerdelemental!

I'm sure this has been said many, many times before but it's this kind of interaction with the creators and writers that, for me, puts Wyrd head and shoulders above the competition. Thanks, nerdelemental; I think it's safe to say you've got most of us hooked for the foreseeable future

I was a bit disappointed that he saved her because she's supposed to be oh so bad-ass, but I liked the scenes with her and the Ortega boys.

Hoffman certainly gets a lot of love in this book, hey? And outside of the avatar sections, there are a lot of Masters that don't get so much as a sentence.

To a certain extent. Sonia isn't in control at all, her sacrifice was wasted and she is little more than a suit. As it leaves it she's as good as dead.

Ugh. That's far worse than death.

I was saddened because I play Raspy and Seamus but I still admired the cojones to do it. While I'm disappointed that they Ctrl + Z it (basically), I guess I can understand it as you don't want to alienate any players. Oh well, I still like the overall story.

Also, the Pandora/Nytmare scene was, IMO, the best scene in any of the three books.

Watch Yer Step! Here There Be SPOILERS.

So, maybe I missed something or misread it or something but by the end of Twisting Fates, are Seamus (shot in the head), Rasputina (ice heart exploded from chest) and Sonia Criid (jump into lava river) dead?

For what it's worth, Karn, you'd be my personal hero forever.

I've read all of books 1 and 2 and I'm not doing it for which is "best" but for completion, for the grand picture and just looking for summaries.

I just got my hands on Twisting Fates and have started to read the (so far amazing) fluff but I'm a little fuzzy, having read the first two books a long time ago now.

Does anyone know any sites (or is there a thread maybe? I searched "Fluff" and "Story" to no avail) that summarize the story so far, the details on the events, the Tyrant Entities, etc.? It would be great to read a summary of Rising Powers without having to re-read the whole thing. Plus a wiki would be just be great anyway.

Thanks for the prompt reply, Nathan!

I live in a small, small town in the Great White North and could not get to Gen-Con and I have no local gaming store so all my Malifaux goodness has to come from the online store.

As for missing it in store, I was busy that weekend and asked a friend to do it for me. He's probably just lazy.

So, I heard the new book would be released in the online store at Gen Con and then be available afterwards. I checked the store during Gencon and then ever week since and...nothin'. What happened...?

Everyone Who Plays Ramos: Just to clarify, the general consensus is that you need 6 magnetized SPA bases for a total of 18 of the little dudes?

Sliver Chocobo: Do you really think a Nico player needs one of everything...? If you say 'yes', I'll trust you...it just seems a bit extreme.

Serigala: Would you consider the Ronin to be -must- haves?

Sliver Chocobo: Are Nephilim kind of Lilith's thing...? Do you use Terror Tots and go from there, do you just buy her a Mature Nephilim or do you not use Nephilim with her at all? (Sorry for the Spanish Inquisition*, but just trying to figure out for the sake of the "Master List")

* Which, naturally, no one ever suspects.

Not sure if this has been done before but it if hasn't been, I think it could be a valuable resource.

Basically, a lot of people ask "How many x critters do I need with y Master?". So, why not consolidate those into one thread?

Granted, I'm no pro at this and I've only collected a few from general consensus around the forums but hopefully all you good people can help me add to it and I can just edit it as needed!

EDIT: So, someone suggested I explain by what I mean on this and to clarify what is "Needed" so I will do that and edit the list accordingly.

By need, I mean the models you can't really play without (or shouldn't). Hamelin needs The Stolen and Malifaux Rats. Nicodem needs some Mindless Zombies. McMourning needs Canine Remains. Kirai needs Seishin. Personally, I think any Master than can summon something needs some of that thing.

However, Marcus does not need Silurid or Molemen. That is personal taste.

EDIT 2: Assume all numbers are for a 35 soulstone game.

EDIT 3: Definition of Need: "Models that a player will use consistently all the time as a basic part of the force. (2-3 Belles for Seamus, 2 Waifs for Leveticus, etc)" (Thanks to CRC for the concise definition)

Guild

Lady Justice

Death Marshalls - 3 to 5

Perdita

Sonia Criid

Witchling Stalkers - 3

C. Hoffman

Lucius

Guild Guard - 3

Resurrectionist

Dr. McMourning

Canine Remains - 3 to 6

Flesh Constructs - 2

Nicodem

Mindless Zombies - 3 to 8

Seamus

Rotten Bells - 3 to 6

Kirai

Seishin - 5

Gaki - 2 to 4

Shikome - 1

Lost Love - 1

Arcanist

Ramos

Steampunk Arachnid - SPA= 1 spider, Swarm = 3 Spiders; Magnetized: 6 spiders are Min, 9 is recommended. Total of 27 SS; Unmagnetized: 6 SPA + 2 Swarm. Total of 36 SS

Electrical Creation - 1

Brass Arachnid - 1 (replace with Mobile Toolkit when it comes out)

Marcus

Rasputina

Ice Gamin - 3 to 6 (3 will be enough for most players)

Essence of Power or Wendigo - 1

Ice Pillars (built) - 8

Colette

Doves - 3

Coryphée - 2 (1 if you are good with magnets and conversions)

Neverborn

Lilith

Young Nephilim - 2

Pandora

Sorrows - 3 (or 1 Doppelganger)

Zoraida

Voodoo Doll - 1

The Dreamer

Alps - ???

Daydreams - 3

Outcasts

Leveticus

Steampunk Abominations - 4 to 8

Desolation Engine - 1

Hollow Waifs - 2

Viktoria

Ronin - 3

Som'er Teeth Jones

Bayou Gremlins - 8

Mosquitoes - 2 to 4

Piglets - 6

Hamelin

Malifaux Rats - 12 to 15

The Stolen - 5 to 6

Ratcatcher - 1

Thanks To:

Edonil, Acefisher1, Q'ig'el, Rush3r, karn987, lamwyrd, CRC, Nick, cerealkiller195, Mike3838, Bucket Monkey, Ratty (I know, I know, I'm as surprised as you are that Ratty responded on a thread ), osoi, Eisenhorn, CannonFodder, Vaff, CRC, Storm's Eye, Aka Hazard, Durek

More questions than answers. How very Wyrd.

lulz. Also, hey, a fellow BCer!

Maybe a little off-topic but I don't think it necessitates a new thread: has any of the fiction mentioned why Lady J is blind? Whether it's been since birth or she was blinded? I'd really love to know that...

As Seamus is my primary Master, I'd be okay with Lady J as a new belle

sorry i made some assuptions, but i have i only agree with that if it would be like that, because the avatar is not as big and special as others. sorry i offended you

and what is the special rule from justice?? death marshal

death marshal are actually part undead and ressers so fluff wise, yess the avatar is normal

...now I feel dumb. I -totally- forgot about the death marshalls. You win. I'm totally cool with Lady J again

well to start, why would it be cliché? second, i think it's only normal that this is her avatar, it's the same as sonnia, sonnia has the power and avatar of an arcanist and she hunts them, this is the same with justice,

i think you don't like the avatar because the smiley is not as dramatic and big, as the rest of them, and because its "only" headless justice with her sword. i think if justice would have great wings as the shikome and great claws as a great eagle AND resser powers, you wouldn't mind at all.

It would be cliche because of the tired old trope of "becoming the thing you hate". However, as Silver Chocobo said, if she already is/was, that would be easier to swallow.

And please don't make assumptions about why I do or do not like things. The avatar and subsequent model don't bother me at all; it's the story and idea behind it. Also, I'll miss ol' Lady J, what with her being dead and all :'(