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Thanks for that Q'iq'el, i just like to make sure im not the only one to think the way i do in matters making my models more OP on rare occasions:)

Personally i have always used it as you take the wounds anyway, as you receive the affect, but after reading all this, it makes me curious about something else (more than just the actual answer to the question posed) And that is, if you have fast and receive slow, it removes both ability's, can you then receive slow again before you activate, and therefore gain slow, taking you from your 3 actions down to just 1 if you are slow enough to activate, allowing that to happen?

As you said non surfing stitched, the hula stuff could be an interesting way to go, would likely be fairly unique:P Bright colours interest small children, but on the flip side, its not so scary a monster in a bright skirt so depends which way you wish to go if you consider that one, but the idea made me smile:) For the crew its self I cant think of to much to do, but if you are going for a surfing them, then have the objective markers for the various schemes and strategy's markers as big foaming waves if you are good enough at modelling, unlike me?

Thanks guys for your help so far:) Atm, i am definitely a fan of the Centaur idea, and prefer the idea of a goblin spider to the ones from Reaper minis, due to the lack of clothing on the ones i found, Freebooter stuff i liked, but none of the models looked like something i have the ability to make look good, as if something has a dress, i need it in 2 parts, and the dress to mostly be attached to the top half, so that i can attach them together correctly. But i appreciate the help so far guys, thanks:D

Such as a Centaur style model, except spider rather than horse?

Hello, i was wondering if any of you had any simple ideas for a conversion or any idea of a model that i could get to use as a weaver Widow? Due to i have no ideas myself, and am not that great at converting yet so could always do with some tips, that don't involve modelling with green stuff or equivalent, gaps is fine:) Thanks