Mike3838

I'd also like to get on the reserve list please

Is there anybody driving anywhere near Halifax or along the M62 that might have space for a +1?

Fading memory only happens when Pandora uses her OWN Willpower and wins.

Misery only hurts a model when it uses its OWN Willpower and loses.

You got most of it right, but remember those two key sentences and you'll be able to interpret any situation correctly

I've been getting intermittent "Page cannot be displayed" browser errors from this site only, for a few days now.

I wish that was an option - unfortunately the not-buying-it ship has already sailed for those of us that feel misled by the purchase already, which is probably why the dissatisfaction is more acute than if Wyrd had just released a model that people didnt like.

Wyrd can add my name to the "massively disappointed" column. My BF hasn't arrived yet, but as soon as it does, I think I will be attempting to sell the plastic Nekima model from it. I'm going to feel like a con man doing that and aiming to recoup $35, so I'd be surprised if Wyrd don't feel a little of that feeling themselves already.

The justification of tooling costs vs expected number of units just don't hold up in the face of models like Hannah (same price, massive), Killjoy (same size, half the price), Ama No Zako (bigger, half the price) etc. All of those models are niche and not widely used by players.

I'm in the camp of scale issues myself. I mean look at her stood next to Barbaros again and tell us that's intentional. A big, impressive she-demon would have attracted more players to the game. This release does the opposite and sours existing players instead.

The bottom line? I won't be ordering new release stuff from Wyrd sales ever again. Not until I've seen photos of the models first. I've lost my trust that I'm going to be happy with my purchase.

It depends what you mean by "timely"...

New Masters and their crews are being released on a monthly basis.They might not be the specific masters you're waiting for, but there's around 14 masters still waiting for a release, and we don't know which ones will be at the front of the queue and which ones are at the back. This time next year, you can probably expect everything with current rules to have been released. This is purely how Wyrd work - they have a big rules release once a year, and then the models follow over the next 12 months.

That's not to say you should wait a year before diving in. If you're a fan of Tara, Hamelin and Jack Daw, you're obviously going to be focusing in the Outcast faction. If you pick up another Outcast master to use while you wait for those masters to be released, you'll have a) learned how to play the game already and be able to use any Outcast models you already own in your Hamelin or Jack Daw crews.

Von Schil and the Viktorias are both very solid crews with a lot of crossover, and the newly released Leveticus box could have some thematic overlap with Jack Daw's crew if you wanted to mix things up.

This is a fantastic idea and, honestly, feels like it makes TTB more accessible to me.

I could see myself organising a portal such as this if I ever get around to running a game.

Oh Headhunter will definitely "punish" ranged focussed models, but only the same way that Squatters Rights punishes slow models, or Reckoning punishes squishy models.

You always know your strategy before hiring your crew, so it's not a concern, unless you hire a crew full of shooty Ortegas for some reason...

I'm really looking forward to trying these out.

Brill - don't suppose you guys typically play at weekends? I'll try to make it over at some point if so!

if vik is at one wound and within 1" of its target which has Black blood and deals enough damage to kill it would die before into the fray goes off.

 

damage->Black blood->killed->into the fray.

damage->black blood-vik is killed due to Black blood.->target is killed->no model is around to do into the fray since vik was killed.

An alternative would be:

damage -> target has fulfilled two conditions at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME (when the damage card was turned over) i.e. it has both been damaged (Black Blood) and it is now dead (Killed). Both things resolve simultaneously. -> Black Blood (Vik takes 1 damage)  -> You don't remove Vik straight away (that would imply NON-simultaneous effects - a contradiction!) -> Vik gets to do her attack -> THEN move forwards (both the BB model and Vik are removed as dead)

Or another alternative, applying the logic from earlier (and I'm not certain myself if this is true) of Defender Trigger -> Attacker Trigger -> Attacker Ability ->Defender Ability:

damage -> target has fulfilled two conditions at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME (when the damage card was turned over) i.e. it has both been damaged (Black Blood) and it is now dead (Killed). ATTACKER ABILITY goes first -> Vik gets to do her attack -> DEFENDER ABILITY goes second -> Black Blood -> THEN move forwards (both the BB model and Vik are removed as dead)

Now can i leave?

I'm afraid your obstinate refusal to admit that an alternative interpretation might *conceivably* even *exist* isn't all that helpful to this discussion, so probably for the best

I have to admit this is still clear as mud to me.

I'm getting the impression that the resolve order is:

Defender Trigger

Attacker Trigger

Attacker Ability

Defender Ability

If that's true, it's easy to remember and work through. Is it true?

Given that, where does the Heal from the Cleave action (mentioned just above in Godlyness' last post) fit in? It's not a trigger or an ability - it's part of the attack action itself.

I think it's more that people are saying black blood and kill might happen simultaneously, not that the kill happens first

Doncaster is my home town and I'm back there regularly, so I could well show for this...

Has a Malifaux scene sprung up at The Grid now then? Last time I checked a few months ago it wasn't really being played

McMourning + out-activation + Inject = 3VP on turn 1 for Plant Explosives that's not easy to prevent

Will you be keeping a list of signups here?

I'm planning on buying a ticket at the end of this month, but I don't know how many people have already signed up?

Maria raises some good points regarding Freeze - it's a nice idea, but as it stands I don't think I would ever use it except in *very* situational circumstances.

I would reword the Freeze action to a more standard format so it is understandable - because it's been written in paragraph form, it's not clear how it interacts with existing rules. If you're happy with what it does, I think you want it to say this:

(2) FREEZE! ( Wp 4 / TN: 12 / Rst: Wp / Rg:  10) The attack and resist flips cannot be cheated. Target model gains the Paralysed condition which cannot be removed by any means, and iany immunity to the Paralysed condition is ignored. This action may only be taken once per game.

The last picture of the 3 isn't showing for me... I presume I'm missing a big reveal..?

The biggest gains in getting minimal points will be from picking players in pools D and E that ended up coming mid-table or better, I think. Those will be the deciders, rather than the relatively small place changes in the top two groups...

Eg I think Andy Winton did pretty well(?), so someone backing him will be -30 odd vs somebody who didn't

I'll bring you 2 quid tomorrow morning Ben

Rob "Gremlins are, just, so 2013" Smith

Maria "Star Ascending" Wieland

Chris "Everything is Awesome!" Hay

Jakab "Poison Bomb" Sennett

Bennett "Time to Shine" Morley

I'm staying at the Hull Road Travelodge and will be arriving early evening on Friday with a box full of board games. If anyone else is staying at the same place and wanted to convene in the Sizzling pub just next door we could probably break something out and have a few drinks

I'm bringing along a few smaller games that still work for groups of 6 (sometimes more)

Braggart (seems appropriate!)

Saboteur

Tsuro

Maskarade

Colt Express

Hanabi

King of Tokyo

Snake Oil

Unfortunately I'm not pro enough to play both Paul (8) and Josh (29) at the same time, so I'm going to have to let my understudy Adam Boyes handle one of the games...

Toss a coin for it?

Paid x 2.

Please add two more veggies to the list of fussy eaters.

Fuhatsu is Japanese for "Misfire" i believe? - I think that's the joke

Thanks for coming everyone, and for the encouraging feedback. It was a fun tournament to run and 1st round IT problems notwithstanding I very pleased with how smooth it all went. I haven't managed to play much lately but running an event like this makes me eager to get back on the horse asap. I'm really stoked for the GT now.

The final results have been uploaded to MalifauxRankings, but here they are in full:

1 Greg Piskosz, Neverborn

2 Joel Henry, Gremlins

3 Maria Wieland, Outcasts

4 Mark Elwood,Neverborn

5 Connor Barker, Gremlins

6 Martin Jones, Guild

7 Jimmy Balderstone, Neverborn

8 Adam Hutchinson, Ressurectionists

9 Chris Hay, Neverborn

10 James Doxey, Arcanists

11 Neil Dee, Arcanists

12 Ben Halford, Ressurectionists

13 David Golden, Guild

14 Paul Butler, Gremlins

15 Nate Zettle, Arcanists

16 Robert Balmforth, Outcasts

17 Graham Bursnell, Neverborn

18 Scott Parkin, Ten thunders

19 Cy Dudley, Neverborn

20 Dan Johnston, Guild

21 Peter Sidaway, Ten thunders

22 Peter Rees, Gremlins

23 Bennett Morley, Ressurectionists

24 Ben Harris, Outcasts

25 Andy Figg, Ressurectionists

Best Painted 1st - Ben Halford

Best Painted 2nd - Martin Jones

Sportsmanship - Greg Piskosz

Lastly, somebody left behind their black and silver tournament mug.... If anyone wants to claim it, I can bring it along to the GT if you'll be there.