wizuriel

3 hours ago, Davie said:

I think they should stay at 6 SS. 7 would be too expensive for trichi crews I think.

But as mebtioned before: Drunken KungFu is useless right now

agree. The last game I had I thought Moon Shinobi at 6SS were already weak compared to fermented river monk. This nerf just kills them for me

I feel the bigger issue with Mah is half her crew just isn't good which makes rooster riders seem far better than they actually are. 

Personally I don't like your idea as bushwhackers are already pretty good denial / anti scheme runners. If anything Mah needs more quick beaters to join her on the front which is what I use roosters for. 

My FLGS seems to have at least 2  metal Giant Mosquitos. 

http://www.meeplemart.com/store/c/493-The-Outcasts-493.aspx?ps=120

Anyone have any of the metal Young Lacroix? 

So I've noticed a lot of Wizz-bang models give our Injured, but force tests on Mv which injured no longer reduces  

14 minutes ago, Erik1978 said:

I don't have any, it's those little nurgling looking fellows, right?

I do think Obsidian Oni should be changed. Summoned with a 11

Then charges someone, uses flicker for 6 attack with  on 2/3/4 damage with chance of crit or burning. Then strikes again, again with flicker. Then explodes with 2 giving 2 damage and 2 burning.

I'm gonna do that as much as I can next game, to see if it's as crazy as it sounds.

I can confirm that does really hurt.

Oh Sparks, not even useful in the crew you're designed for

Surprised no Akaname used for scheming or getting corpse/scrap your summons

It also works against the very popular abilities like intimidating authority if the opponent wants to discard a card and....ummm.....Serene Countenance and...............manipulative if you don't want to wait for them to activate first

5 hours ago, I'm a Teapot! said:

 lost 50% of their signature ability cause a monk copying their style was to strong with it. 

I'm noticing a trend in that happening.

Still bitter Lenny lost numbskull to Archie

So asylum kind of got buffed, but anyone else think they still aren't attractive?

So with Shen getting nerfed and bringing Moon Shinobi down with him, are they still worth it with drunken gremlin Kung Fu not working on damage flips?

Bokors for healing / support

Iron skeeters / Silurid for scheme running

While I think Sparks is a poorly designed model he is such a hard counter to armor / scrap heavy crews that he is worth it by lack of competition

1 hour ago, DuBlanck said:

I think dropping Agent 46's stat from 6 down to 5 would make him a little too weak. As you say, without the cheat freebie Mimic attack, he's ok.

He's supposed to be the crew's scalpel killer, if he's not reliably hurting stuff then this crew has to go outside of Keyword for beaters - not in itself a problem, but I didn't find him out of control when I used him (a while back).

Without the third bonus action he would definitely more manageable, but most of his attacks I found he was cheating pretty easily for straight or positives and then dropping my models. 

34 minutes ago, Paddywhack said:

I don't know if Brewie is OP at the moment. That aura does look really strong, but I haven't played it. If his crew can really hand out Poison that easy then upping the needed poison to +3 seems the easiest fix if needed. 

So I find when playing Brewmaster he is either poisoning and controlling your crew or doing damage and other things. I don't find many models can do both at the same time (only Brewmaster and Whiskey golem do both damage and poison without requiring a trigger or hitting higher than stat 4). 

Tri-chi

-Brewmaster I feel hits like a truck and probably does too much damage. Imo his attack stats should drop to 5 and blood poison to 4. Blood poison 8 imo is just not fun espically just needing to tie the target to do full damage. Though with the change to poison I did like attacking stuff, letting them 3 poison damage and next turn just nuking them if still alive

-Akaname: These models imo are broken with Asami and made pretty meh n Tri-chi. Brewmaster NEEDS a way to deal with their flicker.  When Knight used them against me a single Akaname nova'd and killed a 5SS model with 1 AP. In my game it used flicker once for a scrap so I could statr summoning and another time to try and defend against Grimwell and after that it couldn't do anything or risk killing itself. 

-Crew felt squishy against an opponent with card draw

-Moon Shinobi I feel are 100% outshined by Fermented River Monks. imo they could use more triggers on their attacks and their damage imo should really try to emphasive that severe damage with their drunken kung fu. 

Elite

-Not sure how I would have Dealt with Agent 46. I think his damage is on the strong side, but probably okay if my opponent didn't cheat :p maybe nerf his attack stat to 5 so not so oppressive? 

Asylum

-they seemed pretty weak. I was afraid of Grimshaw, but the rest were meh

Just now, Thatguy said:

I think there aren't many times when Brewmaster wants to remove poison from thier models, or the opponents. 

What if the ability was "discard a flicker or two poison" and they also got:

Revel in filth: During the end phase instead of taking damage from the Poison Condition and lowering condition by one, it may raise the condition by one.

not many models in Tri-chi actually care if they are poisoned and can easily generate their own poison for Akaname to share. 

3 minutes ago, lord maiden said:

i understand that it's a tactical action, it was more that it looked like he did the action, and it allowed him to take the action it mimicked but the action doesn't say you can then do the action for free. agent 46 has 2 ap, but mimics to get an action onto his card, then takes that action. then does 2 more actions

Yeah he cheated again. now that I read it not in the heat of battle

Going to resuggest this

New Attack Action

Consuming a part of your world:  RG: 4   Stat: 4   Rst: -   TN: 11

All models must pass a TN11 Wp duel or remove all poison on the model. For every 2 poison removed this model may discard a flicker token.

It's Going to Spew!: If this model has 2 or less flicker it may take A Foul Gift action

change foul gift to

Gain a flicker token. Place a scrap or corpse marker into base contact with this model. If this model has 2 or less flicker it may instead place a scheme marker. 

This way both Brewmaster and Asami will need to be more careful and can't just use Akaname to spam scheme marker to easily do schemes, and Brewmaster crew will have a way to actually handle Akaname flicker. 

24 minutes ago, Hollingydale said:

I am surprised by this. Did the Brewie player not lure your poisoned models into his aura? Did they not move Brewie into position to apply the slow? Its very easily done. The problem I had with Mei's crew is, whilst I could escape, I was using my only available AP to get away (which then could have been lured back by Brewmaster).

It was more if something had poison and was around brewie a dead model is better than a slow model. This was also before they buffed poison so I was using blood poison a lot to just kill models.

In my latest game was kind of the same thing, most models with poison around brewmaster didn't last long enough for the slow aura to come up.

Brewmaster can lure something 12", but unless I get the trigger or the model has WK > 5 or pulling the model out of position is extremely beneficial I feel better off just walking and beating stuff to death 70% of the time. 

32 minutes ago, lord maiden said:

hello, how was the game for both players?

i have two questions, first, i've looked at how mimic is worded on agent 46's card. i think you have it wrong. mimic allows you to borrow an action on another card (e.g. grimwell's skull saw). it does not allow you to do an action for free. so i'm confused at how you can get 3 full actions from agent 46 as the mimic is a free action.

the second question. dr grimwell's nimble allows you to take a walk action as a lightning bolt action. you can only do one of them per activation so how can he use the doctor's orders as well in the same turn?

sorry i'm just finding trouble understanding those actions when i have looked at the cards and gone "wait, what?"

 

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MIMIC: Non-Master only.Select a non- Action printed the target's Stat Card that does not Attach Upgrades or list a model by name. Until the End Phase, this model may treat the selected Action (and its Triggers) as though it were printed on its card. The Stat for the Action is considered to be equal to the Stat for this Action.

1) I strongly believe RAI mimic is other models only, but it's a tactical action and doesn't actual say other model, so RAW you can use it to target yourself and mimic your own actions. 

2) That is Knight cheating and not reading the card carefully. Will let him know.

Still gathering thoughts and will post in a bit and bug Knight to actually log in and post

28 minutes ago, bedjy said:

@wizuriel So as I said, put a TN on the  action (requiring a 6 I think) and let it remove flickers instead of gaining one. Asami's crew is more card hungry than brewy so the cost of an additionnal TN could balance the whole thing.

It already has a 5+ toughness. Not sure I agree Asami is more card hungry than brewmaster. Tri-chi has a lot of stat 4 & 5 and doesn't get focus or + as easily as Oni does 🎰

So yeah Asami supporting Akaname killed a 5SS model in 1activation: 

Brewmaster supporting Akaname created 1 scrap and used flicker once defensively when attacked and then spent the game doing nothing

There is just a slight power difference between Asami using them and Brewmaster. They are amazing models and now kind of okay support. Brewmster doesn't have the tools though to really use them and Asami will easily abuse them for easy VP

Attacker - Me
Brewmaster 
Weasley 
whiskey golem 
fingers 
popcorn 
cooper 
moon shinobi 
akaname 
river monk 

Defender - KnightA4
Lucius 2SS 
scribe 
Grimwell 
Heartsbane 
2x Orderlies 
Agent 46 
lawyer 
investigator 
 

Deployment: Standard 
Strat: Turf War 
Schemes 
Breakthrough (elite) 
Harness the ley line (tri chi) 
Search the Ruins (tri chi) 
Hold up Their forces (elite) 
Claim jump 

                                                             
T1 
-Cooper hides in a barrel and walks 2 
-Orderly walks and grabs a turf marker 
-Wesley charges Cooper gives him poison 4.  
-Orderly walks and grabs a turf marker 
-Akaname walks and makes a scrap. Poisons cooper and Wesley 
-Lawyer picks up jack discards masks. Makes Grimwell and Heartsbane shielded 2, walks and obeys Grimwell to walk 
-Moon Shinobi walks 2 
-Investigator walks twice 
-Popcorn turner pushes 3, grabs turf marker, walks 
-Scribe walks 2 
-Fermented river monk walks 2 
-Grimwell nimble walks, discards to Doctor Order himself and charges Akaname. I gain a flicker for DF and Grimwell BJ. Second attack hits for weak with critical strike and injured 2 
-Brewmaster walks, charges Grimwell for weak and poison 2. Heals self and gives poison to Grimwell and Akaname with shower of booze. Hits Grimwell again for another poison 2 and weak damage 
-Heartsbane walks, pushes towards Grimwell and straight jackets Brewmaster (opponent was hoping for a mask) 
-Whiskey golem walks 3 times 
-Agent 46 walk, mimics himself to analze weakness whiskey golem (we checked the rules and don’t see anything preventing tactical actions targeting yourself), I RJ flip so it fails anyways 😛 does it again this time getting it 
-Fingers walks twice 
-Lucius walks pushing scribe and investigator, Hidden snipers whiskey golem but I cheat and it misses. issue command Agent 46 to charge whiskey golem, since I can’t cheat Agent 46 cheats in RJ for damage  leaving me at 2hp [Symbol] 

 
T2 
I Discard BJ, Grimwell takes 3 damage from poison 
-Agent 46 mimic’s himself to analyze weakness on whiskey golem. Then kills him and walks 
-Brewmaster Blood Poisons Grimwell killing him. Focus, charges heartsbane hitting for a lucky moderate. Heartsbane mask trigger ends his activation 
-Scribe walks, pulls Heartsbane back and removes her poison 
-Cooper hides in a barrel and turns scrap into a wiskey gamin and removes 4 poison to fully heal him.  Moves and drops a scheme 
-Pass 
-Gamin walks 
-Investigator walks and charges finger. Hits for lucky moderate and fingers squeals away 
-Fingers walks and drops a scheme 
-Orderly walks twice 
-Moon Shinobi grabs turf marker and walks 
-Cooper charges orderly, RJ damage killing the orderly. Walks 
-Lucius issues Agent 46 to charge popcorn who cheats in mask since I can’t cheat hitting for severe and then jumping to fingers hitting for moderate and forcing me to discard. Hidden sniper popcorn turner but BJ Damage. Does it again but cheat so it misses 
-Fermented river monk charges Agent 46. First attack misses. 2nd spend a chi token so it hits giving Agent 46 poison 2 
-Lawyer gets masks. Shields self and misses orderly. Fails to obey Heartsbane. Walk twice 
-Akaname walks and charges Laywer missing after he discards. Poisons lawyer 
-Heartsbane walks and charges Brewmaster and I RJ Damage and give him staggered 
-Wesley heals brewmaster 4, removes staggered and gives him focus 2 
-Orderly walks and heals heartsbane 2 
-Agent 46 and Laywer take 2 poison damage  

Score: 1 – 1

T3 
-Cooper pushes 3. heals 2, gains poison and walks and steals a turf marker 
-Agent 46 walks to engage fingers. Attacks and kills him. Mimics self to attack fermented river monk for weak 
-Brewmaster uses focus and hits Heartsbane for moderate with trigger to give poison. Blood poison her to kill her. Attacks orderly for weak and kills orderly  
-Lucius gives Agent 46 command to attack river monk leaving him at 1HP.  Snipers popcorn hitting for weak. Last attack RJ killing popcorn turner 
-Fermented river monk attacks Agent 46 hitting lucky server with chi. 2nd attack misses 
-Akaname misses laywer twice 
-Lawyer discards crow kills akaname since no cards to discard 
-Moon Shinobi kills laywer 
-Investigator walks and tries to prevent me scoring 
-Gamin drops scheme 

score: 3 – 2  

Opponent calls it 

On 2/9/2019 at 9:50 AM, trikk said:

He can pretty easily do 7 actions a turn with Obey, Changeling and Lucius.

Why does mimic let you target yourself?

4 minutes ago, Zulix said:

 

The Bayou Bash ability says during this models activation. So, I took that to mean they could not use it for defense. Unless I am missing something. 

Lenny let's you use it outside their activation