Keltheos

I think that's the hole in the argument, there: I don't believe SA is an "alternative and exceptional" way to activate models per se, and nothing in Pacify's text specifies that it only applies to "normal" activations.

Pacify is an effect which must be applied to all activations. Pacified models must activate after all other models in the crew. Simultaneous activation violates this restriction, therefore it cannot be applied.

To support this, the Multiple Activation rules explicitly state that each model in the SA is activated "as normal". There's no exception granted for overriding compulsory activation order from effects.

Anyway, I can certainly see where you're coming from, and it's a very cloudy issue. Hoping for some official clarification.

It sounds like you guys have figured it out for yourselves, not that cloudy after all.

Not so much. Companion itself can only kick in when the model activates, not later on in its activation. When you're checking who can be activated through Companion at the start of an activation that's the only point it can be used. After that everyone's activations have started (those you Companioned), even if they have yet to complete said activations.

Wolfgar's got it.

The order of the suits in each trigger is unchanged from model to model. So say you have the Kill Everything Trigger with the following layout: (:masks:rams)

If the model has Rams in the suit (say Ca 5:rams) the Rams would be faded out even though it's not the first suit in the trigger.

Wait, so my 25-part long serial starring Padre Hector and his investigations of the haunted chapel of Perdition is scrapped?!

The suits are in an order for triggers. Depending on which suit the model already possesses, that's what suit is grayed out. The gray suits are 'helper' items to remind you the model already possesses that suit in the stat being used.

Old west church is 100% okay.

Stall tactics are fun until someone realizes the person doing the stalling is doing nothing else and you can run tactical rings around them when it comes to strategy wins.

Just when flipped.

What trumps what:

Black Joker - trumps everything

Red Joker - trumps penalty modifiers when flipped

Penalty flips - trump cheating

No modifier/bonus flips - allow cheating

Additional card with a Soulstone - not affected by the above.

i use the pegasus cactuses. work well especially mounted on some 30mm or 40mm bases. nice and modular that way too. could work for ternon crag inWM if you need a town name.

Maybe she meant the models in the box were damaged in some way.

cuddle Lure please!

Lol. It's Lure's fault Von Schill was on top of a 6" tall building when there's a model with it on the table?

Lol

You know they've won Grammies, right?

LMFAO are entertaining. Nothing spectacular, mind you, but some fun tunes for the car or the club.

shamone!!

I love Keltheos. And Weird Sketch. And Ratty.

The guy that writes the core storyline, though, is a tool.

...what I hear...

I love tools.

I like our fans. Seriously, without the lot of you there'd be no Malifaux to begin with.

Yup, one activation.

You mean this one that's been running since 2010?

http://wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15485

+1

This is something I've noticed as well. While it's hard to truely appreciate just what goes on behind Wyrd's doors from the confines of my laptop, it certainly seems as though they need to pause a moment and take the time to better manage what they have.

You're right, maybe we should spend less time answering questions and being as accessible as we currently are in favor of the other Wyrd work on our desks...

We should also have a long paragraph or two on Deck manipulation and stacking the deck while shuffling or drawing from the bottom as well as swapping out cards for extra 10s or Jokers, as well as entries on what happens if you don't tracking damage correctly, or 'forgetting' a model is paralyzed, or not applying Poison damage, etc.

At some point there's a trust factor that should be implicit in any game, especially those where cards are involved. Just like you trust an opponent to roll dice in a manner that doesn't give them an advantage, but there's no spelled out method for how to roll, the distance the dice should bounce, how many rotations they make, is a cup and shake legal, but a cup and drop not, and so forth...

the question is, "does Wyrd try to discourage card counting"

If the rules themselves and our replies here it still aren't clear...well...

Book 4 will feature a spirit construct nephilim nightmare woe gremlin.

fixed.

One thing I'll point out that's sort of relevant, is that Vegas doesn't use just one standard deck of 52 cards. I may be mistaken, but I believe Black Jack is played with 6 decks.

Depends on the casino. You have some with single deck, some with 6 deck shoes, some with 6 deck continually-shuffling shoes, and some in between.

which is depressing since i remember the last time this came up, it was declared by the rules guys that card counting = cheating.

There's a pretty clear difference between mentally keeping track of whether a couple cards have been used and 'card counting' the ways it was discussed in that thread.

If you're defining me (and probably every other player) as a card counter (and by your out of context definition, a cheater) when I mentally keep track of how many Jokers are in my or my opponent's discard pile then you missed the entire thread's point.

That's like saying every Joe Tourist visiting Las Vegas should be arrested for card counting when they try to remember how many 10s have been pulled out of a single-deck blackjack game.