Self-mutilate and slow to die?

[zebuth]

Could a punk zombie use self-mutilate as slow to die action?

and can Kirai redirect the damage on a Seishi if both are hit by the same blast marker? If so the Seishi take two times the damages?

Thank you

[bldyhll666]

punk zombie: no, because hes at 0 wounds when he dies. since ur at 0 wounds youll be inflicting 0 damage on target. cant go into the negatives with wounds

as for karai: dont play her so im not sure

hope that helps

[zebuth]

Yes thank you for the fast awnser

[marshimartian]

Kirai can only redirect attacks. If she is getting hit with a blast marker, then she isn't the target of the attack, so no redirecting.

However, you can sac a seshin at the beginning of any models activation to make her, and seshins near her immune to blasts for that activation. You just have to remember to do it when your opponent activates a model with potential blast threat.

Hope that helps!

[egoon]

punk zombie: no, because hes at 0 wounds when he dies. since ur at 0 wounds youll be inflicting 0 damage on target. cant go into the negatives with wounds

Is this true only if the cause of death is 0 wounds? If the Punk is killed or sacrificed by any other effect, the wound stat should be unaffected (I think), and allow for self-mutilate. Just a thought...

[Oscilioth]

You aren't allowed to take away more wounds than you have, when you die this is most likely 0, therefore you can't Self Mutilate for any damage at all. You also cannot deal so much damage to yourself so as you would die, or in other words be reduced to zero wounds.

Slow to Die does not come into play if the model is sacrificed, so that's a moot point regardless.

If a model was killed outright by some effect, lets say the Punk Zombie has full wounds, a Nurse puts Life Support on it so it will die at the end of its next activation, then as I read it you could use Self Mutilate during your Slow to Die Action, because the Rules Manual makes a specific difference between being killed outright and being reduced to 0 wounds.