FinalForm

I am glad to invite everyone to our little local tournament december 10. Hobby Center "Ginger cat", Russia, Chelyabinsk, Caslinskaya 77, 5th floor.

Henchmen hardcore rules.

start - 11AM

PM me for more information)

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my idea:
You still can bomb Nico and core models with Sonnia and co. Kill Asura, Kill Phill, Kill gravedigger/emissary/Sebastian.
Then you can take a break.
If only Nico doesn't have reaper grin)

7 hours ago, jchrisobrien said:

Pale rider is a trap. Don't do it!

can you explain your point?

On 09.02.2018 at 11:21 PM, Impact UK said:

So is anyone using the Pale Rider in GG2018?

Domador(if you can make a decent convertion)+belle+pale rider: Nice tactical 22ss kit with lots of options (lures, raw damage, high mobility).
 

2 hours ago, Tris said:

and she is no hard hitter for her cost, and not super tanky either.

9 hp with armour and ss prevent is fine 3 range also helps. She can tank some stuff while being healed by nellie. Of cause she is no way near joss or 9def Phiona, but she has pretty good defensive stats overal.
Again she is fine fighter while focused. 6 damage on target with 4 damage makes her a fine hardhitter for her cost)

1 hour ago, Tris said:

@FinalForm

I would like to ask again - what is Hannah doing in your list except giving you 1 extra card for 10ss?

Sry, missed the question before)
Hannah is very tough well-rounded model. She obviosly can score on Ours very well, she hits like a truck while focused and she can copy lots of good Ca actions ( Phiona, Alisson, reporter, executioner, dm, performer, investigator, domador and queller are extremely good targets for "Make a new entry").
If you are not playing nellie bomb- she is a good frontline beatstick/tarpit with free teleport from Phiona.

8 hours ago, ElPuto said:

How will you up the list to 50SS? Phiona maybe? Something specific for the Strategy?
Why the Austringer btw? Just because they're good, or am I missing some synergy here?

This is totally based on strat/schemes.
If you want to play nellie bomb on 50ss you can pick say Bishop, Burt or Executioner and franc. And if you are playing against armoured army or something with good protective abilities- you might want a queller for buff.
If you want to play tactical nellie- you don't need bishop or burt. Pick Franc, Phiona and/or Hannah. Rest is up to you.

In current meta state IMO this patterns work in any guild list:
4 guards+ Alisson: Great 20ss piece with cheap 5 activations, tanky tarpit with some good damage potential.
Domador(if you can make a decent convertion)+belle+pale rider: Nice tactical 22ss kit with lots of options (lures, raw damage, high mobility).
And they both work with Nellie pretty good.

And there are some nice single models(not single in case of doggos) that can help with schemes/strat. I prefer such models as: reporter (cheap schemerunner/antischemerunner), performer(toolkit), doggos(cheap fast schemerun), austringers(toolkit) and investigator(if you can make a decent convertion) .

3 minutes ago, Adran said:

Hot off the presses lets you place them in contact with a friendly scheme marker. I think you could move Bishop more, the challenge is getting the scheme marker far enough away on the first turn. 

And double Flurry Bishop has always been a fun thing. Granted Debt makes it even more so, but I can pretty much garentee that when I first read Debt to the guild, I looked at Bishop as a good target for it as he has always had one of the highest number of attacks. 

Well Propoganda -> guilt is so much easier than producing far markers for Hot off presses but if you can, it grants you extra mobility.

In our community most players prefered Burt as cheaper model with same damage track or peacekeeper as more tanky target.
I prefer bishop not because of just raw damage output, but for his insane 8def/8wp with inbuilt trigger against melee models also. This catches opponent in a situation when he is forced to dump tonns of attacks to kill big, well protected model or to ignore guy, who can kill 35ss list on his own.

2 hours ago, Nellit said:

How exactly do you get this free 10 inch move?

Via one of Nellies attacks

7 hours ago, ElPuto said:

Why meme list?

 

Bishop with debt and fast is kinda overkill against any target. With proper support he can kill any model in the game(exept for Tony) in one activation with only 3 or 4 attacks and he can generate 6.
 

5 hours ago, Ludvig said:

Meme refers to an idea that is replicated so bassically a netlist is a meme.

Damage output of well positioned (thx to free 10 inch move) fast bishop with debt is big enough to be meme by itself.
First tested it against armored(via steamfitter) Sandeep with big pool of ss. No one expects double flurry for 30+ damage))

And for the sake of clarity: nobody played Bishop with Nellie in Russia before me. Everyone were taking Burt or Peacekeeper for similar purpose. 

1 minute ago, trikk said:

How did you feel tabling a fluff list :P?

It was a tournament and a game against one of our strongest players. I don't see this list THAT fluffy. TT list has very cosistent scheme and strategy effective models.  I've tabled fluff Von Schill with such list on my first tournament and it was sad. Now I'm picking this stuff only vs experienced players. 

Meme is alive
Nellie+ franc+ bishop with debt+ press+ austringer+ journalist
35ss
Ply for information, ruins, entourage
versus Misaki with bisento+ tengu+tt bro+sun quang+torikage+wokou raider

8-2
Outactivated opponent and killed Misaki and sun quang on a second turn alpha strike
Killed anything else exept for wokou rider on third turn

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I am glad to invite everyone to our little local tournament december 10. Hobby Center "Ginger cat", Russia, Chelyabinsk, Caslinskaya 77, 5th floor.

Henchmen hardcore rules.

start - 11AM

PM me for more information)

Bro, just read their cards. MGs are awesome
Durable, mobile models, that offer extra protection to models near them. They add so much mobility to the melee lists I cant even say.
Top pics in McCabe due to reactivation and in LJ. Francisco is highly recomended with them (+2 def and is like absolute protection) and they can give him a ride. 

5 hours ago, trikk said:

I was thinking about Pneumatic Hoffman making him a Construct with Fast/Nimble and Armor 1 with Df6

this is a fine idea!
I will test it this week

6 hours ago, 4thstringer said:

increased costs for burt, McTav and Johan definitely hurt my Nellie lists

Did anyone realy used McT with Nellie that much and if yes- for what reason?
 

On 16.01.2018 at 7:55 AM, ElPuto said:

After the errata, Nellie with Mercs will be seen as weak, 'cause her best choices got nerfed with a point cost growth

lolwat

Bishop was the go to pick from the begining and he is just better now. Trapper can be easily changed for Hans now, Mctavish was not as good and I prefered to pick Hannah instead of him. Performers are still 5ss.
For me Nellie got slightly better as good models are cheaper now and new scheme pool is fine for her.
You can also spam gg to fill that activations.

I've tried 50ss list with Sonnia

Sonnia +walls+chain activation
Franc +debt+wade in
Hearthbane
Sam
Guild Guards *6

My opponents list was:

Sandip
Kandara
Miranda
Acolyte
Silent one
Performer
Effigy




I'm not sure what schemes were, but we've played quarters with punish the weak and my second scheme was new sucker on Sam.
Won 8/3 thx to free gamins to kill, december acolyte and performer for 3vp and Sam lived exectly for 4 turns, dying on the second activation in the 4th turn.
Guards are just VERY VERY tanky and can survive like most 2ap activations without massive  on attacks and dmg.

22 hours ago, Ludvig said:

McMourning would generally prefer thralls because he can do his push and drop a marker to make them take a free attack.

I would rather say MM will prefer Cerberus or Rogue necromancy.