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  1. The Lenny nerf hasn't really bothered me that much. You can still toss Trixie up and then lure your master turn 1.
    Roosters aren't terrible models really. They are still killy and with a ram you get a free charge...

    Brewmaster is another beast all together. He straddles the line of negative play experience. Making him too strong wouldn't be good for the game. I'm happy with where he is now. And we don't know how the new models will work so why start casting stones?

    Models I don't care for:

    Pigapult
    Gators
    Lovely Assitant
    Survivors
     

  2. 5 hours ago, Ludvig said:

    Maybe you are right per english grammar but come on, most people hadn't picked up on that because it's so obscure. From the other restrictions it seems abundanrly clear that the same model can only be targeted once per turn and that each wisp can only do it once per turn. If each crew couls only evwr do it once, why introduce the other restrictions?

    Do you really thi k it should play this way or are you playing devil's advocate? There is a rule in these forums about not playing devil's advocate but only argue actual points you want to play by. 

    Edit: Sorry if this sounded harsh, bad morning for me.



    You would be able to summon 2-3 voodoo dolls a turn this way and it would not be a fun day (which was how I was playing it before I re-read ever changing form)
    Wasn't sure if anyone else had read it the same way, but if no one else sees it the same way i'll change over to how it's intended.
    You didn't come off harsh at all haha.

     

    3 hours ago, Haagrum said:

    The wording is the wording, and the order does affect how the rule should be understood. In this case, the "once per turn" text relates to the targeting of any particular model with the Ever-Changing Form action.

    Moving it to the front of the sentence - and adding a comma - greatly changes the meaning of the relevant sentence. That's not playing devil's advocate or reading it creatively; it's re-casting the rule entirely to permit an alternate interpretation.

    Actually English is fun and you can move it around the sentence and retain the meaning! 
    And because once is a subordinating conjunction we can do it in the original sentence.



    http://www.englicious.org/lesson/subordinate-clauses-sentences

    ie: 
    He sat drinking a coke on the bench.
    On the bench he sat drinking a coke.
    Drinking a coke, he sat on a bench. 

    or
    "Once per turn, a single model may only be targeted by "ever changing form".
    single model  once per turn may only be targeted by "ever changing form".
    single model may only be targeted by "ever changing form" once per turn.



     

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  3. So the wording on ever changing form isn't as clear as it seems.
    It is worded: "A single model may only be targeted by "ever changing form" once per turn.
    Because of this extra word it becomes unclear and I can see a RAW vs RAI argument.

    A) Because it specifies that a single model it means that whatever model you target with ever changing form is the only model that can be targeted by ever changing for until the end of the turn.
    B ) A model may be targeted by "ever changing form" once per turn.


    We know that "once per turn" is a subordinating clause (thank you highschool English) so we can put it at the front of the sentence as well.
    "Once per turn, a single model may only be targeted by "ever changing form".
    This makes it seem more like case A if you really want to play a RAW lawyer. 
    Single specifies a model for some reason.  
    Without the word Single this would be much clearer. 

     

    Maybe it's just late and i've read the sentence too many times and i'm being stupid but....
    I know that is is going to be semantics but as it currently stands can someone please explain why it is A or B without any grey area thanks to English grammar? 

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