Quasari

We just flip strategies/schemes based on the ME core book. I keep seeing 2017 schemes, what's the difference?

1 hour ago, Ludvig said:

@Quasari

By the way, you are playing with schemes and strats right? I've heard some new players trying the game without them which is a really bad idea. In any game you should have a mutual strat and choose at least one scheme each, otherwise you will get a really weird idea of the game. It's ok to play a tryout with like only a minion vs a minion to learn more about how flips work but any time you have more than two models on the board you want schemes and strats.

Yes, but I don't think either of us play the objectives enough.I like to be killy, so that's what I do often. 

36 minutes ago, (Keenan) said:

To the OP, what are the "extras" you guys have?  I can't speak for the Arcanists, but the NB I do have some experience with.  If he's running garbage added to a crew box it doesn't set up success.  My opinion is Gremlins aren't broken and, unless something has drastically changed recently, Ophelia is not even close to broken.  I make the recommendation to anyone playing NB if you want to win at all costs have the all-stars available.  If you want to have fun, play with models you like.  

The only real Gremlin extra I have is slop haulers, though I do have the PVC Aionius I throw in every once in a while for shits and giggles.  IIRC he's really only got Teddy as an extra for NB, though I believe he's also got a Collodi box, but he's never brought any of em. Arcanists he's got Mechanical Rider and Coryphee as extras. He's also got Tara. Really he did a bunch of trades for stuff he liked while off loading some CSM from 40k, so he's got a mixed bag. He really like Arcanists and Neverborn though aesthetically.

37 minutes ago, Ludvig said:

Who did you kill with Francois? He shouldn't oneshot any of those masters. Francois is an often lamented model that is definitely extremely powerful but there are ways to control him. While reckless gives him a good threat range it's very possible to control who he gets to charge.

It was Cassandra. Honestly that game last night wasn't much as we were playing lower SS as we didnt have as much time and it was henchman led>.< I know the games balanced for 50ss so playing lower will have some imbalances.

TLDR: How do Gremlins stack up as a faction in competitive play?

Long version:

Me and a buddy have been playing a casual game every week at our LGS, but we've run into a snag. I own four crew boxes(Hamelin, Colette, Ophelia, and Wong) along with a few extra models(mainly Slop Haulers and Brotherhood of the Rat), while he owns four as well (Colette, Kaeris, Pandora, and Titania) plus a few extras as well. We both love the models and lore behind them. Now, I usually play Gremlins as I don't like Hamelins play style, and colette tends to be a mirror match(I really only got the Nightmare version cuz I like the Carnival aesthetic) and it's gotten to be where I do good more than I do bad playing them.

Here's where the problem comes in, because he feels like he loses more than he wins he's checked on the internet and found that Gremlins are the best. Like seriously, he says that they are sweeping tournaments and are just overly efficient. His main problems are Reckless, Heals(slop haulers and Lightning Bugs), and Dumb Luck. He especially hates Francois, which I agree is an incredibly efficient model. Anywho, he feels that I am destroying the fun in the game by playing Gremlins as they are Cheese in his opinion and he will never be able to win at a reasonable rate as long as I play them.

Things came to a head last night as on turn 2, my Francois recklessed, walked then charged. I then went on to Dueling Blade her, hit, declare dumb luck, and even with a negative on the damage flip from accuracy do max damage, straight up one shotting her. We had a heated discussion where basically I said I'll try to get some other sets that I'm interested in and I felt it was over after that, however he sent a text later that night with screen shots of http://usa.malifaux-rankings.com/ showing that the top USA player is also the top Gremlins player and that Gremlins have a higher average player score than other factions. Once I started looking at all the data presented there, I felt it showed a different picture. I told him that it was obvious the average scores were skewed by unranked accounts, that the top 8 players in that list only really includes one gremlin main, and that looking through a bunch of the reported events I'm not seeing many events that Gremlins swept. Anywho, any evidence I give him is just "confirmation bias" and I'm defending my cheese. He now doesn't want to play anymore.

Am I playing cheese?

http://www.wyrd-games.net/upcoming-releases

Says it should of released in stores on the 25. I havent asked my lfgs if they can order it, but it should be out. Won't be in wyrds website for a month though.

that particular image is from The Historie of Foure Footed Beasts by Edward Topsell , published in 1607. Gygax used this book as inspiration for the first monster manual. 

That's pretty cool. Is that a button?

On the dark Carnival, I only really had problems with the mannequins. The sword one came with one of it's swords broken and the hammer one was pretty hard to figure out how the legs and cloth all fit together, the rest of the models were a breeze though.

It's gotten better, but these models take some modeling skill to put together. The older the box, the worse it is. Ophelia is quite a bit easier, but still has the foot problem and some straps are bad. Honestly, check out gmorts blog on his unboxing as he points out how punishing each build is.

I ended up damaging the hammer one slightly, but a little green stuff fixed the most visible of it. Had a real hard time figuring out how the legs and cloth went together.

You may be right in that I'm over thinking this.

So, I'm having issues deciding how I'm going to base a few of these models. Going for the easy Circus theme isn't so easy. I frankly don't know what to do with the flying monkeys or the hammer mannequin. For all the rest I've used some all purpose sand and some simple props.

Mr Cooper is standing on the thing a ring master usually stands on.

Mercury has a kettle bell at his feet that looks like one Louis Cyr might've used.

Baritone Lola and Thin Lizzy are on two sides ofseesaw, with Lola on the high part.

Sword Mannequin is balanced on a circus style ball.

I thought the strength test would be good for the hammer, but honestly it's too over the top and would take too much room. I can't think of anything for the monkeys.

What did y'all do? I need inspiration.

Activated means to be made active. Its will have been considered to have been activated as soon as its able to do stuff. To be considered not have being activated until it's no longer is active is silly and against the definition of the word.