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That cuts out a lot of fun henchman tag-teams.

anyone up for a game?

I'd thought giant young meant relatively person sized. I really hadn't taken into account that the rest of the kin would double in size. Those kid's have to look ginormous next to a bayou gremlin.

Could we get a comparison shot between the Kin and some ht2 mooks?

Edit: Also, no shot of the new Francois.

Francois LaCroix (Point for point, the best damage dealer in the faction)

Forget point for point, I'd put Franc against any purchasable model in the game. Better damage curve than Nekima at half the price.

In no particular order; Slop Hauler, Francois, Lenny, Trixy, Old Major.

Silent one's are remarkable squishy actually, by the time their trigger does anything they're down to one or two wounds.

If that's still a problem for you don't target them directly and just use aoe.

'You sing of young gods easily

in the days when you are young;

But I go smelling yew and sods,

and I know there are gods behind the gods,

gods that are best unsung

And a man grows ugly for women,

and a man grows dull for ale,

well if he finds in his soul at last

Fury, that does not fail'

Anybody up for a game tonight, around 8-10?

Honestly, as charge-bey it would still be a solid ability. Its not like the rest of hunting bow's bad either, I mean that's a sweet gun even if Ulix has difficulty finding a nice open place to shoot from. The everlasting rampage bit does push good taste a bit in certain match ups.

So we're clear though, does anybody have any problems with the Sow other than this particular bit of synergy? I only ask because if something ends up happening here I would hate for it to happen to the wrong model.

My point was they're entirely different bags of tricks. Thought I was agreeing with you.

Apples and oranges. Can't get Ramos to blow up half his toys with Shot.

Both lists are accurate.

If you're having trouble with aoe you should try Merris. Another solid objective runner and a massive middle finger to a number of crews.

Mah's diet Ophelia. Right down to the janky poorly worded zero actions. Trades a little damage and survivability for some mobility tricks.

I say this as an Ophelia player, she's a seal clubber.  She's a good intro master who'll teach you some valuable lessons in regards to threat ranges and applying force. She's got about zero tactical depth though. She runs the same upgrades and the same models and uses the same tactics just about every game. If she's the reason you're going green, you'll have some fun for a few months. Then it'll start to occur to you that every bloody game you seem to be playing is the same last the last one.

If you want a master who wont bore to you tears go with Yan Lo, model has tons of options and his big gimmick is that he can flip between them in the middle of a game.

My god... Its full of stars.

http://wyrd-games.net/community/topic/102780-yui-brewy/

Edit: ..and hey I think that goes towards 'frequent'

None.

You should get (read: make) Old Major and the Sow on general principle. Old Major solves one of Somer's principle weaknesses and makes the entire summoning base more mobile. The Sow is a relatively cheap and effective beat stick.

What he said. Its a brand new Izamu. Which means that your old body guard target's still very dead.

To clarify, you're arguing a Sidir deflected charge could move a model its charge in any direction?

By Your Side bypasses range and los on the initial targeting action. Engagement range is a passive statistic on the attacking model, unrelated to the charge action. The charge action itself has no range. It has the fairly convoluted stipulation that all charges must end in punching distance, but that's not the same thing and nothing is served by saying it is.

Just grit your teeth. You wont enjoy putting it together but the result will probably be pretty.

"If a model that is buried is killed, it will not benefit from any abilities that happen on a model's death."

Levi's stuff wont trigger while he's buried.

Ok, think about it like this. Model A declares a charge against model B which is on the extreme edge of its charge range. Sidir steps in at this point and makes himself the target of the charge, places himself behind model B and outside of model A's charge range. As Sadir is now the target of the charge model A needs to end the charge with him in punching range in order to meet the requirements for charging in the first place. By Your Side ignores los and range but it doesn't rewrite the targeting model's cg stat and it won't give him the mobility necessary to end where it needs to in order to complete a successful charge in the first place.

Is a good one for the faq, book doesn't seem to cover how this should be resolved.