Primarch

On 2/8/2018 at 10:36 PM, -Loki- said:

No, model cards only come with models themselves or are bought individually from Wargamesvault.

Awesome, ordered them, thanks again!

2 minutes ago, -Loki- said:

Generalist Upgrade decks 1 and 2, and the Master Upgrade deck, contain all of the upgrades for all factions and masters that don't come in a box. So grab those 3 and you'll have all upgrades she can use.

For the model cards as well?

Since you can't get the Wave 1 Arsenal anymore...what's the best way to get a hold of some of these cards?

58 minutes ago, I'm a Teapot! said:

To be honest: Pandora has such a high skillcap and many ways of being played effectivly that if you invest enought time she can handle almost anything. 

I've had games vs Sandeep and 3 mages (Who all ignore Misery before their activation due to arcane shield) and a lot of incorporeal ignoring stuff and still won. 

Pandora has a lot of things that are really really good in this game:

- Activation controll

- Passive dmg

- Armor ignore 

- lots of 1 dmg pings vs soulstone users

- powerfull controll options (Paralyze, (-) to wp duells against terrifying etc.)

- anti charge defense

- good defensive stats

- pretty versatile crew options

58 minutes ago, I'm a Teapot! said:

 

Awesome, I like that.  Would you suggest some lists I can put together?

Great information folks!  I do have a few questions/comments.

I have the new deck, and I have like 10-12 rats I think.  Ordered the Broken Promises stuff as well.

Benny Wolcomb

Crooligans

Ashes and Dust

Whats the easiest way to get these models?

Those are on the way, that will give me a better idea on what to do moving forward.

Hey all.  Just getting back into the game and I have the following masters;

Pandora

Hamelin

Ophelia

Kaeris

I think I'm going to focus on 2 of them for now, Pandora and Hamelin.  Having said that, I have the old metal box set for Hamelin, which I think is the same as the models in the new plastic box.  Haven't decided if I want to grab the plastic models, but I do realize I need to add some stuff to the crew.

My local meta is;

VonSchill

Lillith

Rasputina

One guy has all the Rezzers

Sonia

What would you add to the current crew to be effective, and what changes would you make depending on which other master I face in our weekly games?  Any strats or tactics also very welcome.  I have read the sticky post by the way, good information there,  I just need a good starter list, and an idea of how to play it.

Thanks in advance!

Hey all.  Just getting back into the game and I have the following masters;

Pandora

Hamelin

Ophelia

Kaeris

I think I'm going to focus on 2 of them for now, Pandora and Hamelin.  Having said that, I have the old metal box set for Pandora, which I think is the same as the models in the new plastic box.  Haven't decided if I want to grab the plastic models, but I do realize I need to add some stuff to the crew.

My local meta is;

VonSchill

Lillith

Rasputina

One guy has all the Rezzers

Sonia

What would you add to the current crew to be effective, and what changes would you make depending on which other master I face in our weekly games?  Any strats or tactics also very welcome.

Thanks in advance!

Thanks!

4 hours ago, WWHSD said:

I don’t think that falls in the category of “bad match-up” as much as it does “something unexpected that you need to play around”. The heal and the fire extinguisher require discards to use and the model taking the those actions must be within 4 inches and LoS of the Steam Trunk and to use them both in the same activation they also need to be within 8 inches and LoS of Von Schill. Those abilities are also on a 4 Wd model whose only protection is Df 6 and Armor +1.

Indeed, he hid it behind Hannah..so I couldn't see it. 

3 hours ago, retnab said:

Hamelin with his Nihilism and the Viks with the Sisterly Bond upgrade (healing all Sisters every time you give them a Condition, makes it next to impossible for a Fire Gamin to do literally any damage for example) makes her a really terrible drop into Outcasts in general now.

Fair enough.  VS had that little tank, and the (medic), plus Hannah.  I put a lot of fire on them, and they just removed it, healed themselves, then took all their regular actions using an upgrade from VS that lets them take 2x 0 actions and they can use the Track's 0 actions.  Just erased any damage I put, or tried to put on them.  Frustrating.

Thanks guys!  Ordered it today.  WOe is me from Pandora in there too?

So it's hard to get now?  Can't even find it on the On Demand site.

Where is this Fastest Draw upgrade card?  What deck, or box has it?

So Kaeris versus VonSchill is just a bad matchup, right?

33 minutes ago, WWHSD said:

If that’s the case, you might want to make sure that you are playing with enough terrain that breaks up line of sight. Games of Malifaux without enough terrain are notorious for being lopsided in favor of shooty crews.

Yeah, we did have a good bit, but maybe not quite enough.  There were some avenues for shooting, but good places to hide as well.  The issue with the Duet was that I ran out and engaged one Samurai and killed it, but that left me in range of his other Samurai and then he just went on a really good streak of flipping cards and finished me off.

9 hours ago, Nikodemus said:

For what its worth, 3x Samurai in a list is pretty rubbish going by internet wisdom. Same internet wisdom that says Colette is rubbish. I wouldn't say they counter your list all that hard. Safe to say Colette is complex to pick up and you played your first game of 2e. She's certainly not queen of the roost anymore, but based on what little you wrote it sounds like you were outplayed fair 'n square. Which is to be expected from your first full game.

By all means look elsewhere if you're not feeling it for Colette anymore, and she might be off the case if you're into really serious tournament play. Doesn't mean she isn't fun to play and kick ass and win games with still, though.

It was the other guy's first game of Malifaux ever.  I'm not sure I was entirely outplayed, considering all he has to do is get within like 14, and flip 4 cards to hit, then do pretty decent damage.  He also engaged me with the guy with the Tetsubo(sp) and shot my Duet 2 more times, only hitting her(luck I know) over and over until she was dead. 

In the end, I like the fluff and cool factor, but I don't like getting manhandled without any real outs.  What happened to the spell that basically removed an enemy model when you got a bit lucky on some flips?  I don't see that one at all.  Summoning a Dove is a 15 now?  Was it that high before?  She's the only painted crew I have, but the models listed don't seem to be the way to run her anymore, it sounds a lot like what 40k went to with a bunch of models from different crews instead of doing an all Collette based showgirl crew.  Fine I guess, I just don't have any of those models.

Well, having read the last few pages, this sucks.  I haven't played since 1E, so after jumping back in tonight, I had no idea how to play Colette anymore.  I played against Ten Thunders crew with 3 Samurai that just gunned me down super easily.  I barely remembered any of the rules from the past which is a good thing I guess, since everything is different now.

Collette
Casandra
3 Mannequins

3 Performers

2 Coryphee

Duet

Some blonde gal with 2 pistols, cant remember her name, and I have the old metal models so the pictures don't entirely matchup.

Anyway, I was fairly ran over though did some damage in the process.  Totally different than I remember the Collette crew playing, and reading here, not many folks consider that list of models mostly worth using anymore.  Guess I will see what's up with my Outcast or Neverborn crews?  Lol...

How many events did Hamelin players win at Gencon?

Clay

Any chance I can get into contact with MP? Need some advice and I don't see an option to leave you a PM anywhere...

again...calling magicpockets, come in magicpockets!

Clay

So disappearing act will still work on them as long as they haven't "died" yet. 3 Books, but possible....

Clay

So you can sac them at the beginning? Or bury them, just not after they have "died"?

Clay

Apparently you can't bury, or sacrifice them...so that's out...

Clay

Yeah, I've only chosen my masters based on who I like, so that's not an issue. What I meant was, do the Archanists have some anti-other faction masters skill wise?

I mean, say you were playing against Seamus, which master would be best to take from the Archanists? McMourning? Or is there a general Anti-Resser setup? What about Guild, who would you take? Neverborn?

That is the kind of thing I should have posted in the first post.

Clay

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Ahh...ok, thats what I wanted to know.

Thanks,

Clay

Ok, didn't mean to start a faction war. What I really wanted, since I'm pretty new to Malifaux, is maybe a list of that stuff for Archanists? I mean is Ramos the anti- version of something?

That kind of thing, and it may just be opinion, but that's ok. Thoughts?

Clay