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Thanks, all clear ....

So when 2 (or more)  models attacked Lilith in on turn I have to use the trigger on each of them to make them -2 Ml?

Or only on first model atacking Lilith in each turn?

"the Attacker" - is the modell currently attaking Lilith or all attacking models in this turn?

I'd be interested in knowing where the op is seeing or hearing negativity as of today that promoted this thread.

To my eye, people that could not find anything to like in m2e have moved on.

All the posts I read more are questions about rules or shipments and such so it just seemed odd to me to see a "can't we all just get along" style post.

Was just wondering.

Peoples that do not like M2E (or like 1,5 more) simply do not posts on WYRD forum any more - there is no point in posting negative opinions about M2E ... "Twelve o`clock and all is calm"

Good question, I would like to use my Living Impaired in M2E too.

I asked one of my buddies for a couple of things about Lilith (since that's one of my favorites):

1. Lilith is Ml7 naturally

2. The upgrade that increased her Ml and reach reduced to cost 2

3. Waldgeist forests do NOT have Dense

4. Black Blood Pustule does a flat 2 damage to enemy models rather than 1/3/4

So some good news and some bad news. Illusionary forest is still Dense?

Exceptional work, I like especially Crooligans.

Honestly, I feel that some masters need upgrades, and some need certain upgrades, just to function. other masters are almost better off not taking any upgrades.

So true ...

Lilith is IMO in the first category: She needs upgrades .. badly

I saw something on the nothing beast though: pure notingness => -1DF for each card in its hand for the remainder of the duel. It should say in its controller's hand. I think this was just an oversight.

I tkink You are 100% right - if not my Nothing Beast will NEVER has cards in his hand

I just don't think that upgrades should be an excuse for not giving a model worthwhile abilities in the first place, and that Lilith in particular suffers from having so much offloaded onto upgrades (both for herself and for the Nephilim as a whole) that it proves problematic.

I had to admit that i can not imagine playing lilith without upgrades - She almost have nothing to offer: Spells with Ca 5 are very problematic tu use, and her combat abilities are nothing special.

Stats for Tara Crew are in the WYRD Chronicles 7

http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?45819-Wyrd-Chronicles-Vol-7&p=599657#post599657

I like the mechanism of limiting DEF of Beast and Wretch by number of cards in control hand.

Knowledge of Eternity probably will be must have due to positive flip for initiative - Activating Tara first and using Temporal Shift (discarding whole hand) can be great advantage when Beast and Wretch has DEF reaching beyond the scale of models in Open Beta.

Of course no cards in Controll Hand is quite dangerous ...

Freebooter fate miniature are top quality ... and are metal! - occurence becoming rare in this Times.

Thanks for Your response.

I am thinking about Brotherhood

Quick Start Rules:

http://www.freebooters-fate.de//Downloads_en.html

https://twitter.com/ericjgames/status/363510302999994368/photo/1

It is interesting that WYRD decide to format rules of models in rulebook in exackly the same way that this rules will be formated on stats cards.

The Mastermind behind this game did some sculpts for Malifaux in the past... Mr. Klocke...

Interesting. do You Know exackly which one of WYRD miniatures?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOh7RKR--PE

I know that this game use card mechanics, have great quality models and is skirmish. Somebody had played Freebooter's Fate? I would like to know more about this game: are there scenarios/missions, how deep/complicated there rules are, how long game last, how big the gaming table is, how much terrain is used?

Most of the info about it is in German - that is why I am asking here.

At least Nekima will be a Henchmen in M2E... I presume.

....here's hoping for a free rules and possibly stats PDF. I believe that the second wave playtest in particular is going to be vital, and testing time is precious.

There is always possibility that second wave will be posponed till Rulebooks will be available in LGS - and I belive in rather this solution than free rules or stats in pdf.

If one can afford it.

I can not affort it, shipping to Europe is so expensive... I will be waiting till I can buy rulebook in my LGS.

And that iw why I hope that new rulebook will be in availabe in LGS ASAP - I would like to contribute do second wave of Beta - and without of knowledge about final rules and final stats it will be not possible.

With that being said, I'd opt for getting the book direct from Gencon every year, as you can at least use the rules from the book while waiting for the models.

That will be preferable solution ...

May I as when M2E rulebook will be availabe in local shops?

My concern is, if rulebook will be available in local shops before second wave of beta - for sure nor all Gamers will have oportunity to buy rulebook during GenCon.

I am out of games issue till december ... I mean in active way (gaming, meetin people), but I still have theoretical grasp on gaming issue (rules, forums).

micahwc

I agree with Your every word .... but old Lilith is not gone - We can still play her in v1.5.

From the other hand:

I will not betray my lovely Mistress and I will find way to play with Her new incarnation in M2E

My Malifaux collection is consisted of:

Total: 187 models

Neverborn 41

Ressers 39

Guild 35

Arcanists 25

Outcasts 25

Gremlins 17

Other models 5