GTDemon777

.............uh oh

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well i have an apology to make.

Start here:

http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?13573-How-to-Play-Zoraida-(Tactics)

and here:

http://pullmyfinger.wikispaces.com/Zoraida

figure out how you like playing and do that, Zoraida is totally ok using whatever. I've seen control lists, ive seen speedy nephilims with her, and i personally go shooty. Also, the first link's list of hirable minions isnt up to date i believe. I think only the gunsmith is missing

with pandora, if youve got a doppleganger and Mr.Tannen, u can get them to link to pandora (dont remember the specific combo), pandora runs around.....pacifying is it? tannen is with her to make life easier for you. Essentially its a mobile bubble of doom. Also, stitched together are great in general for neverborn.

that is true, but i tend to favor other mercs for her. I play her shooty so i use a lot of SS on hiring mercs and a gunsmith

ok, so i finally got a game in, and this is the list that brought me the most success

25ss

Marcus - 7ss Cache

Von Schill - 10

Gunsmith - 6

Convict Gunslinger - 6

i had plant evidence (and sabotage/kill protege), opponent had turf war (breakthrough/kill protege), end score was 8/6 because i was trying to win with no models but i still had one left

Perdita is just good in general against Pandora since she can ignore the whole WP duel and just shoot her in the face. That alone made things so much easier, though it did make me wish she was stubborn when facing pandora. Also i thought Duty just made it that your models couldnt be obeyed?

Edit: whoops, didnt see the 2nd clause, nvm

The problem with Kirai really shows in smaller point games: Seishin. They're essentially the lifeblood of a Kirai crew and are amazing. Small problem, you're devoting 6-10SS on them alone making it harder to fit in some hard hitters. If you can't utilize Shikome or Ikiryo enough, it'll be harder to fit in hard hitters. That being said, utilizing Shikome/Ikiryo actually isnt that hard to utilize, especially by surprising people with a TWELVE INCH RANGE SUMMON OF UNGODLINESS. Turn 2, waited till my opponent activated everything, summoned Shikome, walked into rasputina with nimble, delivered message, opponent argued about this for about half an hour, glared, shook my hand, and said good game. Speaking of which, mobility is what i think Kirai is all about. With the swapping, teleporting, and summoning she can do. Even her avatar is ridiculously mobile with that (0) push. Anyways, despite how spirits take half damage from non-magic sources, they can still get easily injured w/o magic since they're Def is usually sub-par. In other words, i recommend being careful and utilize your mobility to ambush people. This is very easy with Shikome since you can just walk through a wall, finish off a model, and walk back behind the wall.

i love the blue for your constructs : D . Also, on LJ, i feel (and this is probably because of the lighting) that there is little contrast between her skin and her top. This could be remedied, IMO, by emphasizing the shading in the top with some kind of brown. Course you could ignore it, its perfectly fine otherwise

aside from filler and summoning, its good for grow lists and nurse-bombing

Since it says that it can't be used to summon, does that mean it can't be used for Mannequin Replacement? It doesn't guarantee a summon, so that's why i find it a little iffy

so it states that "Until the Start Closing Phase, friendly Beast models receive +3 Wp and all other models receive -3 Wp." does this mean friendly non-beasts receive -3 WP?

i thought the +tome was only for Ramos. I dont have the card or book so i cant confirm

also, i heard that the #1 marcus player uses him to basically hold Kaeris' purse. Essentially, build a Kaeris crew so Kaeris can have 8ss, use Marcus to grab objectives or beat face when necessary

oh, right i also have a Rogue Necro, also, thnx guys

so i am in the middle of the league and i got Marcus. I have Marcus' box, silurids, shikome, the bear, and blessed of December (no jackalope available).

Thinking of trying him in a 35ss with:

Marcus (8ss)

Shikome 8

BoD 8

Sabretooth 8

Myranda 7

thoughts?

whats the specific ruling on evasive in the rulebook? also, it could just be that evasive is different source of armor aside from the actual armor talent. so it doesnt really modify his armor

nowadays, ive seen pandoras running along with a doppleganger and a tannen via link, it'd be realy hard dealing with all them using an orthodox collette crew, though i heard mannequin arent the worst idea since they have pretty good wp. Also, u mightve not faced many morale duels, but von schil could work. plus, hey, more ranged attacks, and a pretty dam good one at that

long story short, Guardian leg stuck in sink trap that cant be removed, any place to buy a left leg for him?

yeah, i forgot that too XP, whoops

touche, at least he has a higher def? doesnt lelu also have to have lilitu or suffer 3 dmg?

Has anyone considered/tried this? he seems worth it for hard-ass alone, plus he adds some great shooting ability and mobility, or is he just too expensive for pandora?

simple, neverborn likes melee, when getting into melee, getting shot is bad. You cant shoot what u cant see. also, i know the people i play with like having a lot of ht 1 with a few ht 2 since it provides cover vs totally blocking LOS. It'd be kind of annoying IMO if u had to spend a good chunk of time just getting LOS if there was a bunch of ht 2s

yeah, juju was weird for me to assemble, i ended up sculpting an entire shoulder for him

i know the stores, theyre pretty cool ppl, i am just trying to find students at george mason interested.

wait, lil has lure?! or r u referring to the twins?