Cyphre

Please let there be some non-asian models as well.

Or at least a Rotten Geisha for Seamus

In the fluff, Nicodem prefers to use the corpses of warriors from the orient, as he has found that they tend to hold on to their fighting abilities better after resurrection. I think it's pretty thematic, and we already have a host of non asian models to chose from already.

I see your point, but I prefer a gothic horror theme to both Nicodem and Seamus.

I really hope there will be some non-asian resser models as well. I just don't see them going very well with Seamus and Nicodem (despite his punk zombies)

Thanks for the suggestions guys

guess there are not that many thematic models for Pandora in book 3. Besides Iggy and effigies

I don't own book 3 so I have only got tid-bits of what each model do.

Hi guys,

hope you can provide a bit of help here.

I have the starter box and Teddy, and really want to expand on my Pandora crew. Reading on the forum and listening to various podcasts it seems that the following models should be a priority:

Doppelganger

Lelu

Lilitu

Insidious Madness

Poltergeist

Primordial Magic

They are however all book 1 or 2 models and I wanted to know if there are any book 3 models that you guys would recommend. Now I really like my crews to be thematic(Doppelganger, Baby Kaede, Candy etc.), so what should be getting?

Seamus is my favourite Master and I love using him. He has suffered a little with the increasing meta of non living/undead models that are in the game but he can still function well (just some of his tools are rendered unusable)

IF changes were to be made these are all I would consider are needed and not neccessarily all of them.

• SS cache up to 4
  
• Trail of Fear change "living models" to "enemy models"
  
• Excessive Bleeding Trigger back on Flintlock as well (as it used to be many many moons ago)
  
• Face of Death change to 3 Anathema -> 14
  
• Remove from Live for Pain
  

The flintlock doesnt need to be able to be fired more than once per turn, it is as much an area denial piece as actual damage dealer. If in range I oten use Live for Pain more often as my Ca is higher then my Cb and I get the heal out of it.

Seamus just needs a couple of his tools tweaked with the new meta (mind you looking at a lot of the 10T models we might be seeing a lot more living models back on the board)

Very good suggestions IMO.

My own where more thematic changes, and not so much quick fixes like these

Having listend to the latest Cheated Fates podcast about the Seamus tactica and really liking it. The one thing that really hit me, was when the hosts said something like: "you need to play Seamus like Jack the Ripper. Hit and runs tactics".

With that in mind I think it would be cool to add the following two abilities to Seamus:

Stalker

From the Shadows

That being said I would like to must of the changes already proposed in the thread.

as usual a good episode. Really like the Seamus overview and the fact that you looked at what goes well with the theme.

Which individual model is in your opinion the most overpriced for each faction?

If you add one model from a different faction to your crew that you would not normally be able to, which would it be for your different masters? and why?

I.e. Taking Baby Kaede in a Seamus crew

I believe you are correct in this situation. From looking at the Rules FAQ and the Damage Resolution FAQ, it says "damage inflicted" is the total amount suffered Before reducing effects are taken into account. So yeah on a severe you would heal 5 even if the opponent has armor or use soulstone, if they do have one or more of those then they'll still take the reduced amount of damage.

Cheers Ductman, thanks for responding

Yesterday in our game a situation occured in which we were unable to find out what was right/wrong.

I used Live for Pain on an enemy model for 5 damage, my opponent then wanted to use a Wound Prevention flip primarily to prevent me from healing 5 Wounds. I then argued that I had given him 5 damage and the wording on the spell said that I healed the same number of wounds as the damage dealt. His Wound Prevention flip would remove incoming wound - not damage - and thus he would not be able to lower the amount of wounds that I healed.

Is this correct?

Emphasis mine. Aka No.

so he cannot use Slow to Die

When a paralyzed model is killed can he still use his Slow to Die action?

Regeneration is healing. "Heal this model the indicated number of Wd at the start of its activation." (RM, pg. 118)

Basically, everything that restores Wds is defined as healing somewhere in its description, and will be prevented by Whispers from Beyond.

Wonderful - thank you :)

Does the Hanged's Whispers from Beyond also prevent Regeneration from taking place? Or is it only straight healing that is prevented?

you chose witch one you want

So I don't get both for the single :crows?

I have a question regarding the :crows trigger that Bete has. If I get the :crows in the attack flip do both triggers go off or only one of them?

Seppukku can bring Betty but not Killjoy.

Lure can make Models Fall of Terrain yes...

And Beey still makes Damage when Paralysing Models with Sever Spine.

Thanks a lot Koali

Hi guys,

had a game last night and a few questions came up that I found myself unable to answer, so I hope you can help me.

Can a Ronin's (all) Seppukku action be used to bring Bete Noire or Killjoy into the game?

If I cast a successful Lure spell on an opponent, who is standing on the edge of a piece of terrain, does that model drop down/fall down from that piece if that is the most direct route to the caster?

When using Bete Noire's Depraved Tactics, and the Sever Spine enhancement, does the knives still do damage or is that forsaken for the Paralyze effect?

I hope you guys can help.

same here. Stopped listing because of it, and as a new player Inormaly really enjoy the podcast

Finished listing to the podcast and it was another good listen. Molly and Collodi are definately on my wish list now.

Got another question that came up while playing, and which I hope you guys can help me with.

When Pandora uses one of her spells, which all target Wp, if she wins is she granted her 4" push or is it only when using Incite/Pacify or when someone tries to target her and fail?

same here. Stopped listing because of it, and as a new player Inormaly really enjoy the podcast