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  2. Molly and Bete Noire's One with the Night

    in Malifaux Rules Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Da Big Baws

    Equally, I don't get why/how you could not comprehend the same after I have explained the basis for my confusion to you, and after a Rules Martial has had to adjust the disambiguation to provide clarity.

    I shall explain one final time why I had to ask, and why the confusion existed. If you still refuse to accept that this is the reason I asked, I can only consider it to be an effort to antagonise me over my ignorance.

    The spell indicates that you may use the linked ability. The provision may, is a permissive conjuctive. It indicates that permission is granted to use what it refers to. Where you would not normally be able to do Drawn to Death, the spell One with the Night provides that you may use it. The rules are clear that they are to be broken whenever the wording on a card contradicts them.

    Now, to make things crystal clear, yes, we all know this is not the case. It has been answered by Ratty as such, which means that it cannot be. A To continue:

    If you had an ability that indicated you may be considered Living or Undead in relation to effects targetting you, there is no suggestion that you cannot be considered Undead because you did not have Undead written in your type text. Equally, Molly does not have Drawn to Death on her card.

    I code for a very simple MUDlib. If write an action that includes a MAY trigger, that action will automatically be active with the criterea of the MAY trigger. Unless I include an IF/UNLESS trigger precluding the MAY trigger, the may trigger will be available.

    I would finally draw your attention to the 5th entry in the dictionary.reference.com definition of "can".

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/can

    I would equally assume that if a card sad I can do something, then I would assume that I could do it.

    As you stated yourself, it is semantics. Logical progressions are precisely what lead me to ask the question; it says I may use it, it's not on my card, but it says I may. I better clarify. English is imperfect, as clearly am I, otherwise I wouldn't be sitting here having to type out a 6 minute explanation of the use/misuse of may whilst I wait for champion selection in League of Legends.

    While I can see your reasoning, I can't agree with it. In your comparison to Undead, Undead is a global term defined in the Rules Manual. Every card that says Undead doesn't need to define it. But Drawn to Death isn't defined as a global term. It is defined in one specific card. Betê's spell tells you may use Drawn to Death, but Drawn to Death means nothing to Molly or her Totem, thus it should be ignored.

    Anyway, it isn't my intention to antagonize, so I'm leaving this here

  3. Molly and Bete Noire's One with the Night

    in Malifaux Rules Discussion

    Posted

    In the scenario persented, Baws, the suggestion was that she got the rules for Drawn to Death from the spell she has stolen, which is on Bete's card; to which the stolen spell has a provisio for the use of.

    However, I am unsure as to why you are still pressing this given I have conceeded to a rules martial, and it has been pointed out twice by them. Omenbringer, specifically, has pointed out how the card should be interpreted; his method is the "simple" way. There is no dispute to be had, given that as soon as Ratty says something, it is law.

    Not disputing, I just don't get why/how you could think stealing a spell that lets you use a specific rule grants you said rule. It is cristal clear to me and never even thought it might. :)

  5. Molly and Bete Noire's One with the Night

    in Malifaux Rules Discussion

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    I had seen your comment regarding them not having it, but had no rules point in reference to a spell referring to the ability not superceding that. Ratty said it is so, so it is true, mind you; even if the specific clarification of why (re: not having the ability themselves) was not cited.

    Fetid: as was my interpretation, but Ratty said no, so it's not ;3

    In my opinion, there is no need for specific rules. It is simple logic and semantics.

    If X thing (Molly's stealing spell) grants you Y thing (stolen spell) that lets you use Z specific thing (unburrowing ability) in a new different circumstance, it's stance to reason, you must have Z thing before hand. :)

  7. Molly and Bete Noire's One with the Night

    in Malifaux Rules Discussion

    Posted

    Slightly more involved Molly question:

    Molly can copy a 1 spell, if she doesn't cast it, her totem has access to that spell until Molly casts the stolen spell, or steals a new spell.

    Bete in play. You copy One with the Night. This spell refers to "this model", not the name of the model, and states "It may use Drawn to Death to return to play beginning on the next turn." Given this is the case, and Drawn to Death specifically says "this model" and not Bete Noir, Drawn to Death can be used as part of the spell for Molly and the Necrotic Machine?

    Any conflict?

    Molly/NR lack Drawn to Death, so why would you cast this?

  8. Favorite Characters, (just curious)

    in News, Reviews, & Discussion

    Posted

    C. Hoffman is my favorite.

    I have a whole topic as to why: http://wyrd-games.net/forum/showthread.php?t=20847

    Others I like:

    Lady Justice: I like Law/Order themes

    Seamus: Undead Hookers, nothing more needs to be said.

    Sonnia: Big Boom, Big Boom, Big Boom!

    Zoraida: Old Hag with a plan

    Pandora: Mythological figure

    The 3 Docs - Ramos, Marcus, and McMourning: Geniuses in their own right

    Rasputina: Might be more messed up in the head than Seamus

    Nicodem: Classy guys, he just likes Zombies

    I probably missed a few, hehe.

  12. My speculative theory on the Hoffman brothers (Book 2 & 3 spoilers)

    in Malifaux Discussion

    Posted

    I believe Ryle's mind (most of it anyway) is trapped inside C. Hoffman himself. Why do I think so? Hoffman's Avatar manifestation created a contruct that was big, protected him, and cared for him, Book 3 even says it treats him like a brother. It is well noted that pre-entering the breach, Ryle was overprotective of his little brother. This may explain why even when he is unconscious, Constructs without functioning cortexes still operate. This maybe Ryle's consciousness.

    *wild speculation over*

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  14. Some suggestions for Wyrd

    in Malifaux Discussion

    Posted

    Here are a few suggestions for Wyrd, post if you agree with any of them or with your own.

    - Offer books in both Hardcover and Softcover, I would pay $10 more happily for Hardcover books.

    - Offer a Counter / Token set.

    - More Wyrd Chronicles!

    - The next step to Puppet Wars, make Puppet Plushies! I would love a Teddy, Seamus, Hoffman, Baby Kade, Pandora, and Rasputina plushie, hell, I'd love any Puppet Wars plushies.

  15. Signed Twisting Fates on Black Friday Sale

    in Malifaux Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Da Big Baws

    just come to Gen Con, we'll be happy to sign the books you already have :D

    Sadly, traveling to a Con as a handicapped man (meaning I will need a traveling partner) living in Puerto Rico makes the trip very costly and difficult. I don't think I could get to conventions even though I'd love to :(. Every nerd/gamer/hobbyist (I fall on all 3) should go to one at least once.

  16. Signed Twisting Fates on Black Friday Sale

    in Malifaux Discussion

    Posted

    Hmmm, I do have a copy, but I was thinking of ordering some more base inserts and the next couple models for my undead Guild during the Warstore BF sale, but this makes the copy that much more tempting. Have to think about it though as I just spent over $100 for a Lord Chompy last night.

    While the Book signed copy is while supplies last, the BF Sale at TheWarStore.com lasts until Monday. I don't think they'll run out of them as it is a very particular item, so you should have time to think. This is based on pure speculation of course.

  20. Need Tips on Basing and Painting Puppets

    in Puppet Wars Unstitched

    Posted

    Dip can be a bit thick right out of the container. My suggestion is to cut it in the pot with rubbing alcohol. I did my zombies using the method, and they were a bit obscured before cutting the dip a bit. I would seriously bring the level of the fluid to almost the top using the alcohol, it's by no means an exact science though.

    Also, we stuck them to a GW flying base with poster tack, and spun them a couple of seconds in a drill. Use a paper bag to cover the it or the whole deal becomes horribly messy....

    While I have some dipped minis, they where never dipped, the dip was brushed on with an old/cheap brush.

  23. Using Puppet models in Malifaux

    in Malifaux Discussion

    Posted

    O im not bashing them i fully understand. I hope eventualy they put out an offical deck of them or some thing.

    Neither am I. But I was rather exited when they said (or implied, but I'm pretty sure someone at Wyrd did say it) you could use Puppet Wars models in Malifaux easily as the bases fit on 30mm bases (there are even preview pictures of models on both bases together).

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