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I thought they had the meeting in the book to discuss the hunting of the tyrants whom I believe was thier enemies before the breach even opened...more so than the humans...its just the humans allow the tyrants a form to take aka hamlin & rasputina... Want the meeting at the end discussing december goin down

Marcus and his army in my experience is a very succesful master hunting crew assiinate etc.. Very quick mobile hard hitting models...shikome silurids mechanical rider coryphee duet rogue necromancy .all models people hate seeing hopping at them with an angry marcus and an extra punch from thr jackalope as well..

I've had great success taking the rider and turning him into a beast with raptor...and shikome is good as well..making marcus a hunting partner is nice...

With the main opponents being hamlin, dreamer, lilith and viks with von schiel (lots more but theese being the tougher ones)...

I'm wondering how your games have gone against them...i imagine all off them being problimatic... With hamlin being easiest and dreamer bring the hardest......

Maybe some strategies you've used schemes u might like etc..

Just put thier in case they add any way for her to damage opponent later on...sort of just starting in case but serves no purpose at the moment..

No love for the coryphee duet?

I mainly use the raptor in begining to turn my own models into beasts..then to hit the lower defense models ...and burn an activation..coryphee have been mvp for me hence the thought of adding cassandra to the mix makes tons if sence to me

Am I missing somthing...she's not leading the army (kaeris that is) so should be finE taking the necromancy..

Hmm think this is the list im goin to test this week..

Marcus

Cassandra

Coryphee

Coryphee

Malifaux raptor

Jackalope

(9 ss to spare thinking mechanical rider, shikome, or lawyer)

Gotcha so very similar to pabdora than..always good to know...what matchups or tactics does the hanged really shine in. (haven't used this model yet)...does he travel with daw do his own thing etc etc..

Hmmm I think ill fit in five then..sounds like a good option..so in your lists how do the insidious madnesses play out..other than more cheap activations..i know how I idem with pandora...same thing?

I used to use a tunnelin moleman until I started taking a coryphee duet/mechanical riders ... passing off the damage to a bulletproof 2 model who can heal itself easily is always fun.

somthing I will try in future is taking kaeris miranda and malifaux raptor turning kaeris into a beast and copying her spells with miranda..maybe taking lawyer or rogue necromancy to copy thier spells as well fir a more casty list option..

I personally hate the cerberus and never run either..i can see thier uses but it doesn't fit my style..neither do miranda or the rattler..

Things like this are great help...so 5 shieshin shiuld be started with..not seeing much kirai played I wasnt sure if I wanted 5 or how hard it would be to summon a fifth...

Also how would certain models like dead rider being turned into a spirit be for a tourny..

Also considered a spirit von shiel or librarian could be fun as well...just brainstorming out loud trying to think of every different angle....if something sounds bad from you kirai players lemme know ..trial and error haha...

(p.s. Thanks mystic and ratty read your posts a lot glad to have you helping)

I play marcus as well a completely different route but will post my marcus matchups as well ..figure the more the marrier... Just wanted to say I enjoy your work a lot I play zoraida as well and tho we usual go different routes I learn a lot from your writings...

marcus alpha striking with the siluruds is always a fun thing to do and hard for most models to combat...I also take a coryphee duet and a malifaux raptor...turning the coryphee into a beast..which can also travel will with silurids and marcus...

Mechanical rider..and shikome are also two models I've had success with...looking to posssibly try rogue necromancy along with miranda somtime could be fun.

Never having played kirai or against her I'm refining of picking her up to play out side of my neverborn from time to time. If money and proxies models were not an issue what would be your optimum tourny 35 ss list... Figured id take oppinions before I buy anything... I was thinking maybe

Kirai

4 seishen

2 hanged

Jack daw

Lost love

Or maybe swapping out one of the hanged for dead rider also up to talk about more of the conventional lists....

Thiers about twelve to sixteen players in my gaming group with every master represented so any list would need to be balanced for most situations...the better players play hamlin dreamer and viks with von shiel..tho everyone is pretty good.. My pandora list and zoraida does very fine for tournies just looking to switch it up from time to time...

Where to begin with jack daw...he's extremely tough to kill can force you to discard cards or be killed..as well as terrifying 13..all sorts of things hamlin doesn't like lol especially paired with pandora..

(edit)Lol you beat me to it and said it better

touche...(this didn't come into effect during the game considering killjoy didn't die)... But that being said in a pinch you could eat your summoned wicked doll to healem back to full...

Hey happens to the best of us sandwich ...

On side side notes

never born seem to have a lot of answers as well....

Lilith swapping places.. black blood etc..

pandora just causes hamlin fits with lots of options i plan to do a writeup of her seperatly.

Zoraida roughest of them all but I runner with collodi and he can cancle the insignificant to his dolls..as well as if needed being able to out run the hamlin player along with zoraida being so quick..

Dreamer I.don't play much but I imagine the immune to influence teddy the terrifying and a well placed alp bomb could cause trouble for hamlin...

My local henchman plays hamlin and im a main pandora player super competetive (will play other lists in fun games but will go hard core othertimes)...sandwich ive used a lot of ur tactics to prepare against facing certain armies respectem a lot just wanted to throw that out thier.....ill do some testing with pandora and zoraida vs hamlin and post my results..

with any master you want to play your game and not allow your opponent to.play his..(somtimes easier said than done)..know your str,s..your schemes ur strategies..be a better more knowledgable player than your opponents....yes hamlin is top tier but not oped...(had to hear that a lot as a pandora player)

Sorta went off on tangent thier but just sayibg whatever comes to mind from my phone lol.. Will definitly answer questions involving pandora zoraida collodi marcus or soniaa reguarding hamlin if anyone has them.

Did first league game today against perdita with my list..killjoy was mvp....end of turn one he had kill joy dropped right ontop of him...slow to die action I can eat my fill on my two wnd wickef doll to gettem back up to full (unless it wad errated somewhere) killjoy is a must answer model leaving zoraida to obey him around as well as dopple..that's not even counting collodi and pals doing whatever they want...the shear number if attacks are crazy...so against perdita I won 8-0.. Will keep updates on every game I play

Agreed on dopple...you can give your mrionettes fast and mellee expert... Kill joy does have great synergy with the list cause its one of the best delivery systems for him..dumping him off after your opponents have activated..and with dopple more than likely activating first...also he can be obeyed where as bad ju ju can not....stitched togethers yes are dolls but just slow down this list to much ok in some matchupss if you don't mind slowing your army down to wait for them...... If you run collodi with dreamer I would use stitched...makem fast casting experts then rebury them and then movem forward...

Sorry for the bad formatting but I'm typing from my phone..

I tend to use sonia more for her fire walls..and supporting my killers santiago nino samuel..in a pinch charging with soniaa is nice she is pretty good with her sword..its a very cat and mouse style game between theese..know your distances get your strategies don't jump the gun and panic..

I actually run coryphees in my marcus crew all the time..are they strong..yes..are they over powered.no... 14 ss is a big investment....my main crews are pandora and zoraida both of which never have much trouble...and my two side crews marcus and soniaa not devistated by a coryohee duet either..thiers lots other models I hate seeing more than a duet lol.

Thiers some of the ideas I was looking for =)..convict I have ran in all my zoraida no collodi lists....so definitly a route to consider if the killjoy under performs