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Ive been looking at all the current schemes and looking at ways to rebalance them more like the 3 I suggested before where they can be done in 'stages'. How do these sound as a few other ideas;
My Little Friend (Seamus only)
You earn 1vp if a friendly Seamus kills an enemy model, while it is fleeing, with his .50 Flintlock. You score +1vp if this scheme is announced.
Lay These Souls To Rest (Lady Justice only)
If Lady Justice has killed 3 enemy models by the end of the encounter, you score 1vp. You score +1vp if you announce this scheme.
How would you define fleeing so that its not debatable?
For the LadyJ one, I like where you were going with the name, so I wonder if it doesn't thematically make sense that she must "Final Repose" 3 enemies that would normally have dropped corpses when they died?
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Knowing its a stretch, I'll throw this out there anyway... The model is removed when he dies, but his card very specifically stays in the game.(Assuming you were close enough, etc.) So, are tokens with his model or with his card?
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Its all about the fact that Rafkin gets body parts from corpses being discarded OR sacrificed.
So, he activates first, kills a BUNCH of dogs(As many as you want), with his poison blasts.
Then uses his action that lets him collect body parts.
Then when Nicodem activates, he casts Arise to make a bunch of Mindless Zombies. (They still count as corpse counters and Rafkin gets body parts)
Then he casts reanimator and summons something like a Rogue Necro that sacs 4 more corpse counters. (And Rafkin gets MORE body parts)
So, if you started with 4 Dogs, rafkin will get 8 body parts when its all said and Done.
If you have more dogs and Nico has the cards for multiple Reanimator castings, you can get more than 8...
Then next turn, IF YOU HAVE THE CARDS, Rafkin can generate more Mindless zombies that Nico can use.
It is super slow and very situational.
Something like Claim Jump maybe? And pray they do not take Kidnap?
Its fun to talk about the math, but you may not wind up doing it much... But, YMMV.
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Rafkin can(And Should) summon Mindless Zombies also. The autopsy is...
Just summon Mindless instead.
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Oh man, I really hope I get to play on that board! It looks sooooooo good! Well done sir!
It does look great... I'd personally rather not face a heavy ranged crew on it though.
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looks great! Love the central tree.
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What constitutes a strike HAS been ruled on.
There is not really any debate on this aside from the OP wanting to sort of redefine the "duration of a strike" in some way, a la Magic: The Gathering, like pretending that the attack and response are somehow on a stack and that somehow that "outer action" that is "wrapping" things therefore makes everything contained within it a "Strike" and therefore you get to apply all sorts of words from the "outer" action to things inside as if Riposte was some sort of "redirection" of the initial attack even though the very definition of the word "Riposte" is a counter-attack after a parried attack...
Couple that with the unwillingness of the OP to accept that Malifaux DOES NOT WORK LIKE THAT and that 100 people have said so...
And this just becomes yet another in a long litany of threads where someone asks a question. 50 people answer and are not accepted because they do not have the hat.
Then everyone that was originally trying to be helpful starts getting a little irritated because their help is thrown back in their face and devalued. And when we are in periods of time, like now, where Rules Marshalls are busy elsewhere or simply not replying for their own reasons, little cancer-bud threads like this continue to linger and irritate....
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1. Player Choices. (Good or Bad)
2. Scheme/Strategy planning and execution. (good or bad)
3. Luck related events. (Jokers, initiative, etc.)
I have always been a big critic of Red Joker damage. I do not like that in an otherwise even contest that one flip could so suddenly have such a dramatic effect.
BUT...
The frequency and magnitude of the fallout pales in comparison to terrible player decision making and outright ignoring of what gives people VP in more games than anything related to jokers.
Just an opinion...
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But we can agree that the ruling is that Riposte is not a Strike, yes?
And if so, with the healing flip clearly calling for a Strike from the Dadao, we can agree that it fails to meet that condition?
I guess I am wondering which bit you feel needs further elaboration from a rules Marshall.
To restate that Riposte is not a Strike? Or to restate that the wording for the healing flip requires a Strike?
Forget about Onslaught... The relevant part of the link I provided is the description, by a rules marshall, of what Riposte is, or in this particular case, is NOT. (see: strike)
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And, as an aside, the person saying the quote was Karn, who was a Rules Marshall then. As was Wierd Sketch who replied later in the thread that Karn was right and then, of course, there was Mr. Awesome... Keltheos in the same thread.
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"as if she had hit with her greatsword"Retroactive application makes the game state treat it as if it actually were a Strike made with the Dadao.
Would you have Izamu take 1 from Black Blood off of Riposte, too (assuming he were in range)?
~Lil Kalki
Black Blood says when you are hit with a "Melee Strike", so no, I would not give Izamu damage since the Riposte is not a strike.
Enjoy yourself! (Go Rezzers!)
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"Riposte only lets you deal damage using the result of the Combat Duel against her as if she had with with her sword (which only matters for the Neg/Pos flips on damage). It only lets you deal damage, but doesn't count as if you had really made a strike with the weapon."
And what do you get the healing flip for with Izamu? Strike
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You do not get the healing flip off of the Riposte. This was covered before... Do not have the link. People are free to simply not believe those of us that read it and saw it ruled on.
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Never taken Shikome with Yan Lo... Could be fun.
I don't know that there is ANY model I would take with Yan Lo "instead of" Izamu, but at some point I intend to try almost everything with him "in addition to" Izamu.
For recycling Yan Lo, I prefer control over his death to ensure that I get his card, so when he is low, if I am worried about any sort of shenanigans, I companion Yan, Soul Porter AND Izamu.
Izamu goes first, gets his activation... hopefully kills some stuff. Then Soul Porter kills him then Yan Lo brings him back.
With the companion chain, I do not have to worry about something mucking about between my activations.
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I love dogs with him.
They are such good values for the SS and you can get a lot of them. As they die and he just keeps gathering Chi, eventually going Super-Saiyan on everyone.
Dogs... Yummm....
I have not done it yet, but at some point, I want to get a field of Necropunks with him too. Almost as much Chi when they die (3SS models vs. 2SS models), but they are actually very hard and can shred things pretty quick in packs.
A mix of both would be cool, too.
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neko-"Is it difficult terrain to go through the door."
Me-"Well Izamu is pretty big so we'll say yes for now."
neko-"How hard is it to break down the wall."
Me-"Its rock so you'd need red joker."
*Flips Red Joker*
Me-"F*** you neko."
hahahahaha!
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Seamus boxset, Grave Spirit, Canine Remains and a pack of Crooked Men are nice pickup.
From the boxset, the belles are really useful and while I am not too big a fan of Sybelle, she fills the 6 point slot when you need to and with Nico's Bolster and an attached Grave Spirit, with Nicodem Decaying her or the Grave Spirit for healing, she can actually be pretty tanky.
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it is a shame i'm never able to score the time to go to adepticon, otherwise i'd bring my homemade white chocolate cherry cheesecake with a crushed graham cracker crust, studded with shaved almonds.
x TEASE!!!
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part of it is that it's hard to find a symbol in a list. words can be alphabetized.
THAT is a clear and concise reason that I agree with.
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So, overall then it's not nearly as great as it first appears
Its great. No worries.
With Yan Lo and Izamu on the table, I have never seen a shortage of corpses, spirit or not...
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I don't want raisins or coconut in maliaux 2.0 really hate both and am allergic to one of them.
So... If I KILL someone at the Cake match, do I AUTO-WIN?
Regarding Symbols... What I LIKE about not having the text on the cards is that changes can be universally made in one other place and the cards simply stay "up to date". (Mind you, I am now equating symbols not only with an icon, but more importantly with not having the description of the ability on the card. In terms of simply having a symbol vs. having a NAME... I do not care and think a name works ok in how cards have been laid out to this point)
What I DISLIKE about not having text on the cards is that until I know the symbols, I need a seperate reference to remind me of what they mean.
To me, its simply a question of which of those is a larger problem, or conversely, which helps me more.
I answer the question for myself like this. I have been playing for more than two years. Therefore, I believe that I am capable of knowing what the symbols mean after that long an exposure, so would rather have it more streamlined and easy to errata abilities as necessary.
I could understand where it would be hard for people that seldom play or are very knew though.
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Clippy? DOn't know a ribbon thing, but I do not really use Word much.
I think a lot of reaction was more to your "absolute" of quitting Malifaux if there were ever symbols without knowing anything about how it could be done.
This is not intended as an insult, just an analogy. My wife can cook a vegetable dish and tell my son that he is having onions and Broccoli and spinach for dinner and he will basically say that he would rather starve than eat because he hates vegetables.
Then he is forced to try the dish and likes it.
Without knowing anything other than someone saying symbols, you had my son's "vegetable" reaction from when he was about 6 years old.
I hope you can understand why some people might respond as they did.
You clearly do not like what you have seen to this point in other games in how symbols were used or made. That's cool. You don't have to.
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4 Suits
5 Faction Symbols
Aura
Pulse
Ranged
Melee
Chi
Positive Flip
Negative Flip
Blast
Methinks someone doth protest too much...
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Not at all. He's incredibly weak compared to Tannen. Ressers never get anything good. I rage quit...
Malifaux 2.0 rumours?
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lol...
yeah...
In my universe, there are always corpses because I always have graverobbers.