Foofighterubu

hi. so did you find the photos?

hi. so did you find the photos?

so this was a long while ago. The website for Pat's blog is virus riddled presumably hacked. And all trace of him seems to have vanished from the WWW. Any chance you can share some details on the how-to side. What's used to create the form. The resin mentioned is a pout product so you need a shape to pour it into. What did he use? ---------- Post added at 12:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:36 PM ---------- He's AWOL. I've been looking all over the web for him. I would love to ask him directly if he would share the idea. If not I understand. When other builders ask how I do water effects I am not exactly forthcoming. BUT I am still making a living at what I do and don't need competition replicating what I have worked hard to perfect. Pat Ohta seems to be out of the terrain building business. I can't find anything posted later than 2009. If you have a way to make contact, please ask about sharing the technique? Honestly, I have a customer who would probably have asked Pat about making terrain or how to make this and came to me when there was no one to find and ask. let me know if you have any ideas Any reply is a help Thanks either way.

Sean can discuss actual cost if he chooses . I can give you an idea of what I charge to do specific types of work. A lot of times I am im familiar and yet new territory and have to start drawing and cutting before I can evaluate time and material. Small houses I carge between $15 and $20. Single room. Windows doors chimney removable roof. larger multi-room, 2 level buildings are more like $45-$65. removable roof and slide out wall so game play can proceed indoors. Things like bridges, and in this set, docks, and walls run $7 - $20. All the wood and stone work is hand carved and unique. Full boards start at $30 per 2x2 ft section. That is some carving and texturing. To set river and stone work, or to create something like the Bazaar board with it's river, paving stones and elaborate walls is more. The walls for the Bazaar are made of individually carved boards, top sections, set in brick work with pillars at the corners and arched door/gateways in four sections. he harbor piece was complicated. The water is a mix and pour product. Walling off the open end was a trick. The critter in the water is a sculpt in apoxie. The product in the quantity needed was $99. from magic Water. It added a lot to the overall weight of the project. It was a lot of carving, and finishing. The water is layered with some detail added along the way for the illusion of depth. But the product can be poured in thin or thick layer and will cure in 70degree temp in 24 hours. Won't eat foam. Doesn't have a strong oder. great stuff from Unreal Details. The Cathedral was a custom it bash. Sections were cut to make walls work for what was wanted. Custom roof made of foam... yeah it's all foam except the Cathedral itself. Kits were probably $30ish each and I charge for what Sean calls the three "T" to finish them. Everything is planned, carved, assembled, detailed, painted (which is a multi-stage process in itself from primer coat to brush, to wash, detail paint, weathering, any little thing stage and done) I do forrest work and hills, castle towers, river and falls, ice and lava, industrial waste, ruins, hills, canyons islands.... And I work very closely with each customer. Hope this helps with the $ questions. Thanks again to sean for the opportunity to work on such a great project.

Sure thing Bos If you have questions just ask.... sorry to take so long to re. I thought I had this thing set to notify me when I am being talked to :)" ---------- Post added at 11:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 PM ---------- hahha YEAH man... it what I do ---------- Post added 07-19-2012 at 01:01 AM ---------- Previous post was 07-18-2012 at 11:06 PM ---------- All of this has water in it now.

Hi Bos... Legba sent me your Q> Go to your local Home dept and look for fan Fold insulating foam. PINK PANTHER sTuff... (i'll give a run down o other types I've used) It's about $40 a bundle... I use about four a year. They usually have 24 "connected" panels 4x2.5 or so and 1/8th inch thick. This stuff us used under vinyl siding. i carve the wood finish with a hot wire detail tool. After several years of experimentation and building with this thickness of foam, I have used ... three..no four types. I don't know ALL the manufacture names but you dude at the depot will. There is a brittle GREEN... plastic sheeting on one side and a sheen I sanded off on the other. I said it is brittle. It's firm enough, and I was able to work with the texture but the surface is perforated. While Stiff it does not bend. Tearing produces some interesting breaking effects, but I won't use it again. the OLD CRINKLED GREEN STUFF : one of the high school coaches was remolding an older house and piled a lot of this crinkled textured, perforated green foam... ancient... stiff plastic on one side and tin, almost impossible to peal film on the other. I used it ... still have some... for ruins, tree stands... rugged looking environments that the texture would work with... But any foam with plastic/film on both sides is a lot of trouble. Supple BLUE stuff- smooth surface... much more flexible for bended work like bridges and towers. Firm enough to no warp much. Not my fave but would use it again... PANTHER PINK!!! yesyesyes. Stuff is firm enough... plastic on one side that peals off in nice big sheets... you have to take this stuff off to paint the foam. I have used it for rivers sections, buildings, bases, bridges, the docks on Legba's harbor...Ork Fortz and other grab and build structures. It's smooth surface is easy to carve into, it can be curved easily... Again it's about $40 per bundle. WARP... I find the best solution is support. The docks have a little natural bend to them, but to prevent that I could have cut cut cross sections and used then vertically as under girding. what I man is, The foam had a top and bottom... a front and a back. If I cut a thin1/8 -1/4 inch strip I have the top/back, AND edge /edge I glue the edge to the flat and use the "beam" to lend strength to the flat section I want to keep straight or flat. With the docks I wanted some room for uncertainty. .....as if the be-tentacled beasty in the water doesn't accomplish that.... I have seen pi8nk stuff with perorations patterned on the surface... that's stuff was too flimsy and I passed on buy ing it. The PINK PANTHER product is superior. So The Short ANSWER is Pink Panther Fan-fold insulation from Home depot. On the foam core project board... That stuff is firm enough... you need a good sharp xacto to cut... and you can score just the paper and rip sections off, go back and carve brick or blast damage in the foam behind the torn away paper.. paint it with PVA if you are going to spray paint. I don't use it often, and yeah... its is too weak without the paper support. I have mostly modified pieces sen to me to improve upon and use in creating larger set pieces. If I may... What Are you building? If you decide the price of the quantity of foam is more than you want to pay you might consider letting me have a shot at building it for you. If you know some one remodeling a house check and see what kind of "trash " is left over. You may find some foam you c an play with and see what you think. A contractor dude working for a family member brought me some left over material thinking I might have a use for it. That was 6 years ago... about... alrighty... hope this helps. God bless Foo

4x4 feet with an additional Bazaar board section to swap out with harbor. ---------- Post added at 01:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:24 AM ---------- Big project like this has a lot of layers of cost. Buildings, fountain and stocks, bridges vary between 10 and 45 or so. River work is usually about $7 per foot, but I usually build those as movable sections, so this is a little different. also different water product and extra wo5rk to card off open ends of he board to keep the product from escaping. The harbor is a major water piece in itself. Special work carving and the volume of water product it will take to fill it are one of the two largest costs on this thing. Both exceed the upwards-of-whew! mark The other is the Cathedral. I don't usually kit-bash ... ransacking model to make something new.. but several ancient building models worked very well for the Ol' dame. The board... my base price is $35 per 2x2ft section. Thats cut and flock and some detail work such as rocky out cropping attached or carved in the board. These sections all have some kind of specialized surfacing, brick work, stone, creepy Lovecraftian mosaic, tile, stone slabs. Also all but one section has river cut into it. So this board was ... what twice that? I'd have to check the early quotes... There is a roof for the church and a covered bridge and two more small bridges yet to come. I remember an early conversation where, having seen the proposed map, and item details, I suggested the man have a heart to heart between his hearts' desire and his wallet. LOL It still seems like a huge amount of work yet to do, but a lot of it will happen very quickly. Shipping it will be all kinds of interesting. packing will be as big an adventure as building it. I'll let Sean give you a private quote if he'd like, but remember, this project is ten times what I have ever accomplished for any one customer ever. You can check out other items currently available for purchase here See other items or wander around the Facebook page Legba posted.