wopr1986 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Samael is also awesome with or without sonnia more of a glass cannon for sure but if it's burning and he hits it in the face it's probably going to die but that's for another topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odin1981 Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 I find it near impossible to field an executioner, because for 9ss you way too many good alternatives when playing guild. Every time I think I have figured out a way to use executioner I find myself asking: Why not bring Judge/Francisco/Samael/Sidir/Ryle/Peacekeeper/Pale Rider/Dashel/anything instead? The big dual clawed man is often misunderstood in how he is used effectively. Most people see his damage track and think he is a offensive piece. Where in reality he is a counter punch piece. I haven't played this game in ages so i am not hip to current trends/ things that cool kids play. But with him in general he is a piece you take to support the ranged offensive component of guild lists so that when stuff gets to jamming up your ranged components he is the model used to unjam them. He in most of my experience is best used with Dita and Lucious. They have pieces and/or abilities that allow him to walk into combat and then activate and swing for the fences to clear stuff up. Because of his unfortunate movement stat he doesn't do well as a offensive missile that you can fire and forget about. They allow him the freedom (his ap) to get where you need him to kill whatever got threw your offensive package of characters that pew pew pew really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 The big dual clawed man is often misunderstood in how he is used effectively. Most people see his damage track and think he is a offensive piece. Where in reality he is a counter punch piece. I haven't played this game in ages so i am not hip to current trends/ things that cool kids play. But with him in general he is a piece you take to support the ranged offensive component of guild lists so that when stuff gets to jamming up your ranged components he is the model used to unjam them. He in most of my experience is best used with Dita and Lucious. They have pieces and/or abilities that allow him to walk into combat and then activate and swing for the fences to clear stuff up. Because of his unfortunate movement stat he doesn't do well as a offensive missile that you can fire and forget about. They allow him the freedom (his ap) to get where you need him to kill whatever got threw your offensive package of characters that pew pew pew really well.Why not bring Judge/Francisco/Samael/Sidir/Ryle/Peacekeeper/Pale Rider/Dashel/anything instead? They all happen to have ranged attacks too, so they can actually do something if your opponent doesn't want to come to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropolous Posted April 12, 2015 Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 Why not bring Judge/Francisco/Samael/Sidir/Ryle/Peacekeeper/Pale Rider/Dashel/anything instead? They all happen to have ranged attacks too, so they can actually do something if your opponent doesn't want to come to you. None of those deny Df triggers or have a 0 that removes enemy scheme markers with an "unlimited" repeating trigger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gipsy_Danger Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 In a competitive setting it can be hard to justify an Executioner because of all the other things we could bring in it's place (as listed above), but for a fun friendly game I think they can be great. After all, who doesn't love playing with/against a fat Wolverine when nothing's at stake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Well if you enjoy playing with a fat wolverine that is out for a small jog, sure. Other than that he doesn't do much else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I still want to play a big-bellied guys theme list. Lucius, 2 Executioners, Dashel, Mr Graves. Just for the lulz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizuriel Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I still want to play a big-bellied guys theme list. Lucius, 2 Executioners, Dashel, Mr Graves. Just for the lulz. Make them a Guild Fat Cat theme? http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Fat_Cat?file=FatCat.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I still want to play a big-bellied guys theme list. Lucius, 2 Executioners, Dashel, Mr Graves. Just for the lulz. Damn it now I need another executioner.. And Lucius. Come on win the challenge already ffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Damn it now I need another executioner.. And Lucius. Come on win the challenge already ffs. You can already do the Men Punching People With Sticks list in TT, though. McCabe, Dashel, Kang, Graves, Ototo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Nah I wanna play the Fat Basterds. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Damn it now I need another executioner.. And Lucius. Come on win the challenge already ffs. You should be ashamed! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 You should be ashamed! But.. But.. Fat basterds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonahmaul Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 But.. But.. Fat basterds. Hang you head ... actually I could do it ... I'll give you a parasol when I bring you back ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'll give you a parasol when I bring you back ... I knew I could count on you mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'm still a "Sexy Exe" plus "McMourning and Nurses" kinda build. You can up his walk in the first turn, and push him forward with injection real quick to get him in position- then if you can get him engaged and pop Precise and Hallucinogens on him, he's ignoring a ton of DF'ives, and doing bonus damage to boot. And the Scheme marker (0) action is a fantastic reason to bring him- midfield bully and Protect Territory and LitS counter. On top of DF trigger master slayers- Executioner vs. Colette makes Colette sad. (Granted, if he can catch her.) Maybe Executioner with a Death Marshal taxi? ENinja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zFiend Posted April 13, 2015 Report Share Posted April 13, 2015 Hm.. So McMourning with an Executioner.. That sounds worth trying! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakurazuka38 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I tried him once with lucius and he was my MVP. My opponent did some tricks with two metal gamin (I don't remember exactly what but they arrived near the centreline and popped some scheme marker). So at the end of the turn (to delay the counter-attack and maximize the surprise element) I double walk with lucius (+ commanding presence on some minions) and used "what lackey are for" to switch places with the executioner ready to charge. Thank to trail of gore he killed the 2 gamin and discarded the enemy scheme marker. Then on the next turn he survived at a myranda/snake bomb attack, killed it in return and make some wounds on joss (came in reinforcement) before dying in hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zinc Lich Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 My big problem with the Excecutioner is that the Peacekeeper is just a few points more and is so much more impressive. Flurry and Advanced Protocol just eat Trail of Gore's lunch. You don't need the enemy to provide you scheme markers for Flurry to work, and you don't need a successful cast for AP. Add onto that the fact that the Peacekeeper does more damage, is faster, is *much* tougher, and has a quite reasonable gun... I just don't see what the Executioner brings to the table that could possibly trump the Peacekeeper, aside from situational trigger suppression. You think an Executioner is scary with McMourning? Have a nurse give a Peacekeeper Downers, then accomplice a Witchling to remove the negative twist. Watch your opponents break their faces smashing into an armor 4, hard to wound model. There is one thing that might save the Excecutioner in the upcoming book: the Mounted Guild Guard. For whatever reason, despite the Executioner's stumpy legs, his charge of 7 means he is eligible to tag along for Cavalry Charges, giving him a quite respectable 14 inch threat range, with the possibility for chain activating, plus a positive twist to Df from Mount Up. If I ever do make a model for an Executioner, he's going to be on a horse and carrying an actual headsman's axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryin Posted April 26, 2015 Report Share Posted April 26, 2015 Just used Executioner with McCabe in a tournament round and he was the star of the show. Giving him nimble and armor takes away a lot of the deficiencies he has without having to up his cost at all. I was also able to have trail of gore go off 2 or 3 times in my match. I'd charge something and if I didn't kill it that turn, I was trail of goring to finish it off next turn then charging or nimble +charging to the next target. it worked out pretty great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticPangolin Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Having to choose between Trail of Gore and switching on the Strangelmetal Shirt can be a tough call though, especially if McCabe would also be in the aura. Having another friendly do it instead is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EntrepeNinja Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Eh. Black Flash him, and let him do the Trail of Gore on his second activation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirial Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 Eh. Black Flash him, and let him do the Trail of Gore on his second activation. The Executioner is no Minion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TehMik Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 *looks at model collection* I CAN do the Fat Basterds Crew! I know what my next hobby project will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myyrä Posted April 27, 2015 Report Share Posted April 27, 2015 The Executioner is no Minion.If it were, it would actually be playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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