Darguth Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 OK, so it seems our ruffian has gained a few boosts: 1.) Wp boosted from 5 to 7. 2.) Knife gains the Sic 'em, Girl! trigger and the built-in suit needed for it. 3.) Pepperbox loses 2" of range but gains a icon on moderate damage and the Sic 'em Girl! trigger as well. Personally, I think these are pretty excellent changes. The Wp buff very simply boosts his flavor of being too dumb to be scared, without a lot of specific text/abilities to accomplish it. It also allows him to fulfill a specific crew role by being a 7ss drop with high Wp. The new trigger on his attacks give him some cross-synergy with Pigs, including Gracie, which I think players wanted. I'm somewhat concerned that he'll out-compete Raphael as a mid-range shooter, but with the slightly shorter range and lack of Dumb Luck that may be less of an issue than it appears at first glance. They share some overlap, but they're different models overall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikvar Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yeah Burt actually ended up pretty solid and his new synergi with pigs(Gracie) was exactly what I was looking for, so I might be a bit sad about Gracie but at least they got Burt fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darguth Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Yeah Burt actually ended up pretty solid and his new synergi with pigs(Gracie) was exactly what I was looking for, so I might be a bit sad about Gracie but at least they got Burt fixed With their newfound affinity you can latch a Saddle onto Gracie and have her cart Burt around too So you can have Gracie move him into position, then have him Charge or shoot in only to call her in via Sic 'em Girl!, where she can proceed to tear them a new one when she Reactivates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypoking Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Shnazzy. I rather like it. Edit: I still think he's complimentary w/ Raphael rather than competitive. Two should work very well together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Still would take Fran over Burt since they are the same cost and seem to fulfill the same role. Raph is a ranged model as evidenced by his horrid Ml stat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darguth Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Still would take Fran over Burt since they are the same cost and seem to fulfill the same role. Raph is a ranged model as evidenced by his horrid Ml stat. For pure damage/threat output? Sure. But I feel Burt is probably a better "tank" than any of the LaCroix. He doesn't have Use Soulstone like Francois, but I think with Slippery, HtK, and It's All in the Reflexes he's probably a more imposing target still. Also with Critical Strike and Loose Trigger his individual damage potential does not require damaging himself, which frees up resources that you'd spend on healing those self-inflicted wounds. Add on top of his utility with Crackerjack Timing and Sic 'em Girl! and I think he's a very competitive choice. The role-differentiation that I see are: - Francois = Total glass cannon. Greatest damage output potential but with high risk/reward. - Raphael = Mid-range shooter with similar mechanics, but a bit heartier with Armor and HtK. - Rami = High-range, low-damage sniper. - Burt = Frontline scrapper with both melee and shooting capabilities, with lower overall potential but lower risk as well. I don't see a "best" choice between Francois, Raphael, and Burt. I see different choices with different tradeoffs, and that's a good place to be I think. You may always choose Francois, but that doesn't mean the others aren't valid options. It's more of a personal preference, I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scirian Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Burt looks so solid that I could cry. Our little guy is all grown up. He feels exactly in line with his character and fits a pretty little niche in my crew. With Gracie/saddle/dirty cheater, I see this pairing going far! The movement shenanigans are exactly what I was looking for. His slippery ability becomes infinitely more valuable when you have a tank like Gracie nearby so darn near always. That little bit of synergy (and fluffiness of) Sic em Girl! made Burt a solid choice with Gracie in a lot of my crews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wp7 is just great. Combine that with Fran and Stubborn on a Master - some crews will struggle against Gremlins. I think Burt (for his points) is the best scrapper behind Fran in the faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgarbonzo Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Liquid Bravery only affects minions so Fran and Burt gain no benefit from it, though your master gives the modifer when resisting with Wp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumb Luck Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I know that. But Burt/Fran have a high Wp anyway, so in concert with Liquid Bravery buffing up the Minions, Gremlins are pretty hardly vs Wp attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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