Alviaran Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I had the same thought, Peregrine, but I don't think it works. Value of the card is still a 1. I'd double check that with the RMs before actually trying to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy in Suit Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 As the rules are on Jakobs card - it is his ability, and whenever he plays the 1:masks it is a RJ - 14. Not that you can also get the HUngering darkness out with 7 wounds with two Kings - 6.5 rounds to 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.A. Hoffman Posted August 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The darkness has so many ways to heal though, it really would be wasted if you through to Kings or RJ's. Now, if that is all you got, then that's all you got. But, I'd rather have a 4 wound HD and just heal up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 As the rules are on Jakobs card - it is his ability, and whenever he plays the 1:masks it is a RJ - 14. Not that you can also get the HUngering darkness out with 7 wounds with two Kings - 6.5 rounds to 7. Yeah, you can round up and get the 7 as you mention, I guess I was thinking for more of a 'hey all I have is the 1 mask and RJ', and I need him now! Thanks for the clarification! The darkness has so many ways to heal though, it really would be wasted if you through to Kings or RJ's. Now, if that is all you got, then that's all you got. But, I'd rather have a 4 wound HD and just heal up. Yeah true. I guess the only thing to note is that if one of your models dies (i.e. a depleated) and you wanted to bring him to the table, it may be difficult to find the heals. I need to re look at the hungering card to make sure I remember all his heals abilities. So much fun though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.A. Hoffman Posted September 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I had an awesome game yesterday with Mr. Lynch. The Darkness died towards then end of my turn. My opponent has few cards left in his hand. I run a depleted at him. He kills it. I drop the two Red Jokers to bring the Darkness back. Per the Huggies powers, models in 5" has to make moral duels. Well... it was in the middle of a pit of models...he was playing undead. I made four undead models run away! It'll probably never happen again, but it was awesome! Plus then huggy got a new turn. Also tried out Jack Daw. In this crew he was very useful. With all the card tricks, he can be devastating if you get your opponent with no cards left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hippos ability to fear all models is pricless. I have gotten so many models to run by bringing him back late in the turn when oponents hand is thin. Add in insidious madness for even more fun times. Neg flip on that morale duel please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MudgeBlack Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Great thread. I have gotten in one game with DD and had fun but missed a lot of stuff that I could have done during the game. You have all given me some fun new ideas to test out tonight. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacSoul Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 I haven't seen it mentioned in here yet, so I figured I'd add that per HD Errata, he has the ability "Never Touch The Stuff," so you can't give him Brilliance by any means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Where is this eratta news to me. Jacob has that where did you hear that for hd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Is in Ratty's thread, the one that he puts the errata in before they go onto the main page. Hungering darkness has Never touch the stuff, just like Jakob does. Edit: http://www.wyrd-games.net/showthread.php?33856-Resolved-Issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 13, 2012 Report Share Posted September 13, 2012 Well thanks for the info thats one heck of a nurf. Guess they decided giving him reactivate was 2 good suprised that did not come up in testing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocky Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Ok, just interested as to how people are playing Jakob himself? Everytime I see chat about him, I see people going on about his card discarding/drawing mechanics. The 2 times I've used him, however, I've sort of turned him into a combat master running around with his pistol out and squeeling/0 pushing out of the way when he's done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rameses Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 In a recent Demo, I played Lynch as a Gunslinger (lol it wasn't as spectacular as I envisioned; but he didn't do that terrible either) But here's where I through my opponent; I didn't deploy HD at the start of the game. Then when Lynch was close enuff: up jumped the devil in melee range and chomp chomp chomp. I wasn't too concerned about he HDs starting wounds since being HT3 he'd be a perfect target and DEAD asap anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soundwave Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Speaking of Jacob, does anyone use the roulette? Paralyzed and high damage is of course nice, but I don't see the other two really being "worth" not doing the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychocamel Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'm too addicted to his draw spell to use his pistol >_> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.A. Hoffman Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Honestly, his spell is too good not to use as often as you can. That being said, I have used him as a gunslinger and he's not bad. It does respectable damage, and thanks to Pip the Ace, you an get some solid kills with it. The trigger is just fun IMO. I wouldn't use it unless my opponent only had one card or two. Then use the gun, see what my options are and keep using it. You can figure that if a person has only one card in their hand it might be good . (RJ Good) Remember its huggy that does the lifting. Together they make one awesome master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychocamel Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Also never forget that a totem dies if his master dies... you don't want Jacob to ever ever die Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Personaly u never use his trigger. First people like to hold the black joker when they can. Paralize is very worthwile the other 3 are just meh. One is crap the other 2 are slightly more damage and one takes 2 turns to do the 1 more than min damage. The risk reward is just not worth it unless you some how know what they are holding. I am not a massive fan of his card draw spell. There is nothing wrong with it just rather blast a model with his gun. Have not had a chance to play post hippo nurf tho so may end up changing my play style a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psychocamel Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Yeah I find if you keep a pair in your hands you can have a lot of fun with a reckless HD, but when you do you have basically lowered your hand size by 2, which is where the card drawing comes in. Also I've been extraordinarily lucky with my spell, and I tend to flip three high odds a lot of the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Quicky math in my head i think there are and even number of even odd cards can allways.semi card count and see half way through if you have more even or odd cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E.T.A. Hoffman Posted September 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Personally, I don't see the change to Huggy to be a big deal. Yeah, it's technically a cuddle, but I always though that giving himself reactive was kind of a stretch of the rules (only a little) and against the grain of the fluff. I didn't see people doing it alot nor did I try it. Just my two pents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Eh it was far more about killing him then giving him reactivate. Removing that makes it much harder to kill him preventing him from terror bombing late in the turn. I got a feeling people will eventualy find its better not to kill him and getting much less out of him as a result. He is very dificult for jacobs own crew to bring down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBurner Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Jakobs roulette trigger is awesome for giving Huggy a better chance to get his melee trigger off. That CB -> 12 duel with a -2 Cb is pretty rough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Eh imho not so much. In theory ya sounds great in actual play hippo normaly activates well before jacob. You want to activate him early so if other side kills him you get a second activation. jacob sits in back and hippo likes to be in thick of it so often companion does not work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrocky Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 I use roulette most of the time. I like gambling. And I guess it depends what you're up against. Vs a Master. Go roulette. Paralyze is win. Vs rail crew with Thomas and 2 Metal Gamin...paralyze and poison is awesome. And I just don't get the love for the dead man's hand spell at all, you get 6 cards, your opponent, on average, gets 3 surges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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