DeleteAccount Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Well, Ten Thunders is a faction that is varied as all hell. Thing is this thread is to discuss the more esoteric combinations that can be added to a crew. An example from the top of my head, though I don't know the details, Misaki is supposed to be a scalpel of death, well, we could add Toshiro with a couple of punks/ashigaru to her list along with whatever else would be neat with her. It gives you some models that don't give a damn about morale, who have their own movement buff and the Daimyo rule on Toshiro allows him to buff whatever else Misaki is bringing to the table for melee pain (Yamaziko, ronin, Torakage). Lets see if people can come up with other interesting combinations that may be able to work out on the table. Be it a big boy band of Kang, Ototo, Mr Graves And Izamu under Misaki or whatever. Let the juices flow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benkei Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Izamu is not TT AFAIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Izamu is not TT AFAIK Very true Rezzer only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunabe Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 but if you use yan he can be hired any way. or so i heard. same goes for willie with mei feng Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormLordXIII Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Very curious to see how this will turn out - I think the dual faction properties of the Ten Thunders make it a totally unique faction. I do not have my SoS rulebook yet, but I was wondering whether or not a Ten Thunders crew could have units from multiple other factions so long as each unit had the dual faction rule... This could render some unique combinations, particularly if you can have Guild, Resser, Arcanist, and Neverborn models in the same crew... I will keep my eye on this thread - thanks for posting, Razhem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteAccount Posted August 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 OK, I made another booboo with Izamu, but Yin IS dual faction, so hey, any Ten Thunders master can have their own personal terror bomb. And if Yan Lo is the master you can have Izamu, Kang and Ototo to have stupid amounts of beatdown if you are interested in doing something that nutty. Just seems like there is a huge amount of potential for unexpected combinations with all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I think the Torakage's ability to swap with any Ten Thunders model is going to be huge for the faction as a whole, and depending on how exactly it works, I think they'll be making an awful lot of lists... Great synergy with melee beaters like Ototo and Kang, allowing them to get into position easily and without taking shots. Great to pull Misaki out of trouble once she's attacked... Swap with a Clockwork Trap so it can prime itself nearer the action. Swap with Mr Tannen to get him in range of his abilities without relying on his pretty low Wk... Depending on whether they can do it multiple times in a single activation, you could swap pretty much any Ten Thunders model for another (I.e. Misaki has just killed something, Torakage swaps with her to save her bacon then swaps with a cheap Trap to save his own) - if this is possible, there is huge potential there... Wastrels sound like they have some kind of movement trick, which will allow for some interesting swaps and if nothing else, one of them can carry the 18" once per game teleport - its an (all) action, but the Torakage can still swap with him for huge shenanigans... Toshiro can be moved prior to summoning, for better positioning - the list just goes on and on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy in Suit Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 The swap is once per activation. But still - I'll be running Torokage + Tannen. A lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Git Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 can a Torakage swap with someone (ie. to get them out of trouble) & then bury to reappear next to a 10T (to get himself out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Unfortunately No O&F - the bury spell is a (2) spell and the swap is a (1). I guess it would be possible if you have a student of conflict, but not really worth it.... ---------- Post added at 04:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:58 PM ---------- more to the point of the topic, how about this for a Mei list as 10 Thunders: Mei emberling willie Graves Rail Golem rail worker clockwork trap x3 5 SS cache Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy in Suit Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Why Graves? I'd go with a Metal Gamin and two stones - makes Mei a much better hitter, and she has use SS while Graves does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodDragonCC Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 What is the range of the swap?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyled Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I was thinking rail workers plus kang plus Toshiro. Toshiro gives his combat boost aura and kang ups the workers Cb by one. Random zombie swarm with out pan lo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elohel Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Honestly, I wouldnt take Mei Fei without Kaeris. But then you'd have to run her as Arcanist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zinc Lich Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 I really like Mei Feng with 3x mechanical traps. 6 soulstones gets you a pretty awesome railwalker path on turn one; something to deal with fast factions nabbing objectives before you can get there. I'm really digging Mr. Lynch as a 10T model. You know who likes having a huge hand? Jack Daw. You know who really likes having a bunch of Terror buddies? Yin. The question is, what else would you run in that kind of list? I don't have the book, so I'm not sure how much the rest of the casino crew like WP shenanigans, and I'm not sure I've heard what else Mr. Lynch can bring with him. Beckoners, maybe? If there is an easy way to apply brilliance to your own models, Toshiro might be a decent addition, as well. Lure the enemy into killing a punk, pop out the Hippo, then re-summon it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iamwyrd Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 What is the range of the swap?? Torakage swap 12" if that's what you were wondering?? Wasn't too sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zinc Lich Posted August 24, 2012 Report Share Posted August 24, 2012 (edited) Honestly, I wouldnt take Mei Fei without Kaeris. But then you'd have to run her as Arcanist. I was thinking like that for a long time. To be fair, I think that they would be BFFs if you wanted to run them that way, but, in the end, they are both models that can really monopolize your supply of soulstones and control cards... Not to mention the fact that I am in absolute love with the rail golem, and he doesn't really play well with accelerant. Not only does it give the enemy the choice of dumping burning tokens off their models so you can't refuel your golem, but you'll be burning it up, too. I think she will run just fine without Arcanist-specific models. The fact is, it is my humble opinion that Arcanist minions are the weakest in the game (to make up for the masters having some of the strongest synergy effects). Other than Kaeris, who will Mei miss? Gunslingers? I suppose that arachnids are good for setting up rail walker movements over difficult terrain, but really, I think that Mei brings everything she needs with her to 10T. EDIT: Pouring over all the information that I have right now, couldn't you get into melee with a Torakage, then swap Mr. Tannen into melee with a model you want to mess with? You get Tannen's Equalize Fate talent, which means you can pare down the opponent's hand if they activate the model he's engaged with, while Mr. Tannen is still Pitiful because he didn't activate to get there. Not a very useful trick for Lynch, as I can't actually imagine the enemy getting a bigger hand than you, but it could be used to pin down troublesome enemy models (Hey Rasputina! You want to put a wall in front of Misaki, you need to discard two cards to do it.) Edited August 24, 2012 by The Zinc Lich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Why Graves? I'd go with a Metal Gamin and two stones - makes Mei a much better hitter, and she has use SS while Graves does not. the main reason Mei would take the gamin is to give her crew some extra survivability, and to allow her to bounce to them. She has the traps for bouncing, and she's pretty durable as is. The main reason for graves is as a big melee hitter, who can boost the entire crews movement. Basically, you link the emberling to graves, move to be behind the whole crew and then seismic punch to push everyone forward. Next, graves goes, uses his (0) to push everyone another 4" and then he moves twice. emberling pops to him, and suddenly you have an entire turns free movement for most of your slower models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbird Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Give Hungering Darkness Brilliance, then have HD cast reactivate on itself. When it dies, Jakob brings it back automatically, then it gets to repeat the same pattern again, for a total of 4 activations in 1 turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alviaran Posted August 25, 2012 Report Share Posted August 25, 2012 Give Hungering Darkness Brilliance, then have HD cast reactivate on itself. When it dies, Jakob brings it back automatically, then it gets to repeat the same pattern again, for a total of 4 activations in 1 turn. Doesn't work. Slave to Darkness is when a model with Brilliance is killed or sacrificed (And no Hungering Darkness in play). Serve Me doesn't kill or sacrifice the model, only removes it after its second activation (and besides, if it was killed or sacrificed, the Hungering Darkness would be in play at the time of the event so you could not trigger Slave to Darkness off of it). This also means that you cannot Serve Me a different model, kill the Hungering Darkness and then resummon it when the Serve Me'd model Reactivates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zinc Lich Posted August 26, 2012 Report Share Posted August 26, 2012 I know that most of these combos revolve around the Torakage, but here's one more: bring along a Student of Conflict and use it to gas up your favorite beater with fast before a Torakage moves it to the front lines. Next turn you can either pull something back with the Torakage, and have the student gas it up, or you can gas up the Torakage itself, and then it transposes itself with the beater. I suppose you could also use the Torakage to move the student itself so it gets the all important (all) action off, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnternalVoid Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I suppose you could also use the Torakage to move the student itself so it gets the all important (all) action off, as well. I thought someone said that the Torakage can only swap with Ten Thunder Models so no swapping with other factions, like outcasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroFire Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 I thought someone said that the Torakage can only swap with Ten Thunder Models so no swapping with other factions, like outcasts. That is correct. (Certain Outcasts, when hired by Misaki, gain the Ten Thunders faction, but I don't think the Student is one of them.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hateful Darkblack Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 The combination I want to try: a Brawl Crew with Jakob Lynch (who generates many cards with his spell) and Mei Feng (who needs many cards for her badass Trigger combos). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTDemon777 Posted September 6, 2012 Report Share Posted September 6, 2012 well, since misaki has access to tailor, in a 25ss list, u can put in an archer, tailor, and ototo. Put the 2 in front of the archer, and they have to hack away at your tanks while archer fires since he can apparently ignore LOS through other models. Its really more food for thought. It'd also probably be better to just have a torakage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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