Dracomax Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Could the reason they went for Malifaux have anything to do with soulstones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePandaDirector Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Listen to the doof. Abandon the notion that it's the same as OUR Earth's history. It's not. We're not even trying to make it the same. This is how I've interpreted it (the first paragraphs of book 1 kinda proves it anyway). I'd find it stranger for someone to recreate the American Civil War, but include magic, because no matter how historically accurate it might be, it makes no sense that history would mostly follow the same path with the inclusion of such a massive variable. Even expecting nations to have much of the same attitudes and traditions is a bit of a stretch since those are shaped heavily by a nation's history. Oh and of course there's the whole "sci-fi, fantasy" thing that kinda gives Wyrd a green card to mess with our minds. As long as you have imagination, Wyrd too, then it's all good. Oh and the fact that The Three Kingdoms wasn't always in lockdown suggests that, despite Lynch and McCabe unlikely being full 10T members, such a group is not limited to Asian members That said, with Wyrd indicating that they're going more character focussed in the books, with the main plot being developed via other means, I do hope that they begin to develop the setting more as well. As much as I like being able to create my own shanty towns, mountain ranges and notable figures (royalty, inventors, etc), I'd be nice to have an immersive insight* into the finer details of Malifaux and its structure. *akin to the Gremlin diary story in book 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerdelemental Posted August 23, 2012 Report Share Posted August 23, 2012 Could the reason they went for Malifaux have anything to do with soulstones? Heh. Well, 1. No DOUBT! Those things are sexy-sauce in a tiny package. But, 2. Wait and see. There's more afoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addonexus Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 Asian crime syndicates did have European members and leaders especially in China the Tai Pan's imported Opium into China illegally and formed the triad doing this... this is how Hong Kong originated as the English Tai-Pan's bought the barren island from China for something like £12 and quickly formed a port and town from which to carry out their nefarious operations. The first ever drug wars where between Great Britain and China who forced opium upon the chinese in exchange for tea... so yes there were many European criminals heading gangs in China at least in the illegal import of opium... ---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 PM ---------- And why do people keep likening them to Yakuza? they are more like the Triad or Tong than the Yakuza.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sliver Chocobo Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 I haven't got or read the book but it could be something alike this Jakob: A casino owner finds himself in mass debt to the 10t (hence the crew name... ), rather than butchering him they enslave him because of NB connections & other opportunities. The casino would provides money laundering abilities (think rush hour 2). Lynch thinks he still holds power but is really a pawn or he created a web of deciept & got caught. now he is stuck between a rock & a hard place. Lucas: a spoilt rich kid wanting to be tough? perhaps went begging to join a crime syndicate. & if you are trying to infiltrate the guild & a jaded official come begging to join what are you going to say? As for real history as has been said, the Yakuza never needed westerners... ie. if you're not going to inflitrate the white house why have American members? as for westerners being masters, heres a quote from a Malis Darkblade book: "lock a Dark Elf in chains & he'll constantly try to break free & stick a knife in your back, give him power & he'll fight off all the daemons of Chaos to keep it!" I also liked fearlords explanation of even though they a masters gamewise they a puppets of the 10T All speculation, but from what i've read could be on the right track! I think Lucas is in same amount of trouble with the 10T as Jacob, possibly more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setoth Posted October 5, 2012 Report Share Posted October 5, 2012 ---------- Post added at 12:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:29 PM ---------- And why do people keep likening them to Yakuza? they are more like the Triad or Tong than the Yakuza.... It's hard to say who they're more like without knowing much about the 3k themselves. We actually don't know all that much about the Ten Thunders besides the terms they use (Oyabun, for example, which is a Yakuza term) and the fact that they're infiltrating Malifaux. That second part leans a bit more towards Triads, but if they're actually serving the nationalistic interests of 3k with soulstone trade then maybe they actually operate in the open back at home, which would land them firmly in the Yakuza territory rather than the Triads. I mean the Yakuza in the 'states don't operate like they do in Japan. The Yamaguchi-gumi have offices publicly listed and out in the open for everyone to see. I definitely wouldn't say that of the Yoshiitomi here in Austin >.> Edit: It amuses me to no end that the swear filter blocks out the name of a Japanese crime syndicate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addonexus Posted October 11, 2012 Report Share Posted October 11, 2012 yeah you are right about the Oyabun bit but I think they are a mix of all of them I just see more Triad style to them especially with their western members... but I guess we see bits of all of them depending on what we are looking for... but you are right until we see more background for them it's hard to tell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted October 18, 2012 Report Share Posted October 18, 2012 Personally, I'd have liked the timeline to have been pushed back a bit further, as the modern era is fast encroaching upon Malifaux. Even more so with what someone like Tesla could have accomplished with Soulstones. [Can almost guarantee that he'd have Ramos' Electrical Fire, and would have used it to incinerate Edison.] Although, with the threats of Neverborn, Gremlins, Ressers, and the somewhat united front of the M&SU, there would still be that frontier mentality here in this savage world, that the Guild is trying to tame while the 10T infiltrate on all levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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