The Godlyness Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 for instance if i self loathe lady j does her critical strike still ad +1 damage or more if i get rams? or not which i believe is true. also if the Victoria sisters have +2dmg to there masumune strikes would this factor in with self loathing also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Twisted Metal Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) Pandora cannot activate her targets triggers on self loathing but any abilities on the weapon apply. For instance the plus on Lady J's sword would apply. One great models to use self loathing on is Sonnia. She will get a flip and she can cast spell for the rest of the turn. If the Vik currently has Fury on then the +2 damage from the would apply as it is an effect that is already active. Edited June 25, 2012 by Twisted Metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hateful Darkblack Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 How about Blasts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Twisted Metal Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Not sure what you are asking... What about them? If a melee weapon can generate blasts on the damage flip then you could potentially get a blast. Nothing is jumping to mind however for a melee weapon that can generate blasts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Finnegan Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 The Black Blood Shaman is one example Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hateful Darkblack Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 There are a few melee weapons that generate blasts, yeah. Hmm, if Self-Loathing can drop Blasts, that's pretty awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Twisted Metal Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 The Black Blood Shaman is one example Cool I didn't realize that. Are there any other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Hateful Darkblack Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Misaki has a spell that gives her a Blast on her Melee attack, but I think it's only during her turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 easternheretic Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Misaki's melee blast go off on a ram trigger if I remembered correctly so it won't go off. Cheers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guardian Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Ok, so LJ can do to herself 7 dmg no problem? ouch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Cunning Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Pere Ravage and possibly Papa Loco have blasts on their melee weapons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kadeton Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Lady J can do a max of 6 (barring Red Joker), because the Critical Strike trigger is not part of the weapon. She flips at a straight flip due to the on her sword, but it still can't be cheated. If Misaki cast Thunder earlier in the turn, she could generate blasts off Self-Loathing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Guardian Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Lady J can do a max of 6 (barring Red Joker), because the Critical Strike trigger is not part of the weapon. She flips at a straight flip due to the on her sword, but it still can't be cheated. If Misaki cast Thunder earlier in the turn, she could generate blasts off Self-Loathing. Oh, so it CANT be cheated even if its a straight flip? Ok, thats good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Headcase2 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) Hmmm... delete button fails to work. Never mind. Edited June 27, 2012 by Headcase2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 The Godlyness Posted June 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 This came up today when mcmourning is hit by self loathing he dies himself no dmg? I was sad since killing him that way was one of my schemes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kadeton Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 This came up today when mcmourning is hit by self loathing he dies himself no dmg? I was sad since killing him that way was one of my schemes. That's hilarious. "Filthy, imperfect body! Raaargh! Oh hey, a lung, better just pop that back in there..." I suspect if you dig into the exact damage sequence, it might be that if he does enough damage to kill himself then he dies, but if not then he takes no damage. It depends on the order of when death occurs in damage resolution... sadly I don't have time to look into it right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Headcase2 Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 I think the "check defending model state" step happens after he heals from the damage, so Doug should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 HaggisMcMutton Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 This came up today when mcmourning is hit by self loathing he dies himself no dmg? I was sad since killing him that way was one of my schemes. Heh, myself and Twisted metal were there playing next to ya when this happened. Your opponent was like, 'ok mcmourning, Pandora gave you self loathing, slice your self while avoiding any vital organs, then the piece you cut off your body, slap that goop back on to heal yourself.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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for instance if i self loathe lady j does her critical strike still ad +1 damage or more if i get rams?
or not which i believe is true.
also if the Victoria sisters have +2dmg to there masumune strikes would this factor in with self loathing also?
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