Thinking of picking up Neverborn: Dreamer/LCB

[johntoenjes]

So I'm thinking of picking up the Dreamer box and a few other models to start Neverborn with. Currently play Arcanists with Rasputina, but want to have a few options.

So I want to pick up the Dreamer box, and a few other things, ending up with a 35ss group that looks like so:

Dreamer/LCB (7ss cache)

Daydream 2ss

Alp 3ss

Coppelius 9ss

Stitched Together 5ss

Stitched Together 5ss

Teddy 9ss

Or is it better to start with more than one Daydream (relatedly, do Daydreams count for the starting SS per nightmare?)

I want to just get things I can use for awhile (such as daydreams and alps, where I can change around the numbers for different arrangements), I don't want to go all out. Thoughts/critiques welcome

[Requirement]

It would probably be best to start out with a few Daydreams as at some point you will probably want to sacrifice one, maybe even more. I believe they do count towards the extra cache as they would be hired.

Is there any reason you are taking one Alp? I find it easy to grab a Desp. Merc. and gain eye counters from him (at least two) which gets two Alps on the board quickly for less stones. With the Errata to them it's not really the best use of stones, in my opinion, to hire them anymore as the "Alp bomb" is off the table.

Queue someone with better ideas!

[Ratty]

You can't hire Desperate Mercs Requirement. He's not allowed to hire Mercs at all due to Master of Dreams.

Alps are not awful, but I feel they need to be dropped in pairs so the enemy can't cheat their slow tests.

[Gentleman J]

I was checking the math on what might replace a Desperate Merc as a sacrificial lamb for Coppelius. Ironically, the perfect candidate is an Alp. 3SS cost, low Df. If you've got a crow first you can get two eyes in two attacks. Sorrows and Terror Tots might work, too.

[Ozz]

never thought of farming eye counters for anything since the change to alps, but that may be a good thing to test out, having counters ready for free healing is always useful

As for the list, it seems similar to one i run with on occasion (usually 3 daydreams and no alps, and 6 stones) and do relatively well with.

[johntoenjes]

So since Alps can be generated from eye tokens, would it be better to still pick up a set of Alps but initially field another daydream instead?

[Ozz]

In my opinion, yes, as they are rather ineffective on their own, as Ratty said, if yu have 2 of them close enough, then their effects are much harder to resist (no cheating ect)