Malandres Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 a sad day indeed.....went to dull coat my ramos crew...as i was spraying let it dry and it finished all covered in white....so i had to bust out the black spray and they are now all back to basecoat...oh such fun and to top it off i have run out of superglue and i dropped my brass arachnid and 3 single arachnids....ho hum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huang Da Wei Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I can sympathise, been there done that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Oh it was soul destroying especially since come Friday ill have jackdaw killjoy and a nicodem box to paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilGinger Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 The moral of this is dont use spray varnish - evil stuff as you found out to your cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Yep...don't think ill use it again...badab black and denheb brown will do the job...luckily they needed a repaint anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webmonkey Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 You could've saved yourself a bunch of headaches. The "white frosting" from the clear coat usually is a result of the amount (or lack thereof) of relative humidity in the air. If you just waited a day or two,.. you could've hit them again. The chemical propellents in aerosols are solvent based. It would have "melted" the white frosting layer, and gotten it to make the coating lay down correctly. This doesn't always work,.. and you may still have needed to strip/reprime them. But chances are, you could've fixed them. Just food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Ach well...luckily my paint coats are so thin that even basecoating them its hardly done touch...i think id be more disappointed if they weren't on my "to repaint list" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 I hate it when the final coats mess up everything else! I never really liked using spray varnish, but these days I've found its fine if you put hte can of spray and your models on the radiator so they're a little warm, spray them and then after giving them a minute to let the worst of the solvent evapourate putting them in a sealed container with some dessicant. Possibly overkill, but I get a lovely matt finish with no white problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 Oh it is frustrating....it would be interesting to get a thread going on peoples finishing quirks...bet there's some real good ones...i think ill avoid varnish and use washes... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebonstar Posted January 11, 2012 Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 This thread hurts my soul a bit :s My sympathies. I've had that happen to me a few times, which has caused me to blacklist certain spray sealers (some are more prone than others to do this). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2012 This was GW purity seal (satin varnish)...its now on my blacklist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackanory Posted January 13, 2012 Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 When you've got such a small amount of models as you have in a Malifaux crew you might as well use brush on varnishes. I use a coat each of Vallejo Gloss and Matt Varnishes. Gloss gives the protective layer and the Matt dulls it off. Worth a try! You can be pretty liberal when you paint them on, it all just shrinks down to coat the model when it dries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2012 i think i will avoid varnish use for now and stik with washes...if i need to varnish then i will brush it on from now on me thinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 i think i will avoid varnish use for now and stik with washes...if i need to varnish then i will brush it on from now on me thinks Or you could test your sprays before using them. I do it with all my primers and finishes before pointing them at a model. I've read too many "I accidentally sprayed black primer instead of finish on my mega hours painted models" and have no intention of adding my name to that list. Just keep an old model around and give it a blast before you get to the real thing. A minute of your time well spent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I don't have any -old- models around...well none that i want to use as testers.... I only have models i use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_was_like_you Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I hate it when the final coats mess up everything else! I never really liked using spray varnish, but these days I've found its fine if you put hte can of spray and your models on the radiator so they're a little warm, spray them and then after giving them a minute to let the worst of the solvent evapourate putting them in a sealed container with some dessicant. Possibly overkill, but I get a lovely matt finish with no white problems! I just hope you never forget about that pipebomb sitting on your radiator. Here's my question: When are models ever finished? Sometimes I feel like George Lucas when it comes to painting my models. I just can't leave well enough alone. Lately I've toned down that mentality, but still, certain parts of my models still haunt me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diehard Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I don't have any -old- models around...well none that i want to use as testers.... I only have models i use Doesn't necessarily need to be a miniature, anything will do, from a plastic spoon to a block of wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mako Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I just hope you never forget about that pipebomb sitting on your radiator. Here's my question: When are models ever finished? Sometimes I feel like George Lucas when it comes to painting my models. I just can't leave well enough alone. Lately I've toned down that mentality, but still, certain parts of my models still haunt me. Yeah, that's the one bit of that process that's always worried me. But I keep a very careful eye on it, pick it up and shake it regularly, and only warm it enough to take the chill off! I know what you mean about endlessly fiddling with stuff, it took me a long time to get to a stage where I could sit down, look over a model, and say 'yes, that's as close as I'll get to how I imagined it.' Then I stop, as I've done more harm than good fiddling after that point a few times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malandres Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 I have a personal rule that if need be ill treat a mini to one Repaint in its life....sadly these guys didn't get a choice where theirs were...but I've finished the Arachnid and pictures are in the showcase thread now (with an original paint and new paint comparison) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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