Tarragon Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I've heard that Kaeris and Rasputina have a good amount of synergy together, and both their models look (I think) amazing. I still want a FireFrost crew (As I call them), but how has the tactica for a Kaeris/Raspy joint crew changed since the new book? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroa Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 I've heard that Kaeris and Rasputina have a good amount of synergy together, and both their models look (I think) amazing. I still want a FireFrost crew (As I call them), but how has the tactica for a Kaeris/Raspy joint crew changed since the new book? funnier, you can spam gamins, use your ice gamins to buff raspy and for some melee protection, and use fire gamins as walking bombs to rush forward and to give some burning counters to enemy models, raspy nukes them, and kaeris helps the nuking, and don't forget, kaeris can overload an ice gamin and still get the shatter. dealing damage and giving burning tokens (kinda the same as a fire gamin) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboStele Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Yeah, we'll see if Kaeris' card gets updated at all on Overpower. Right now, it's freakin awesome with either the Fire Gamin or the Ice Gamin, because it 'kills' the target model, allowing stuff like Shatter to still work. I really like the Raspy/Kaeris combo for board control though. Ice Pillars + Fire Pillars = CRAZY board control. IMO, they are nearly broken if the opponent has Supply Wagon. Good luck getting your Wagon to the middle, LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroa Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Yeah, we'll see if Kaeris' card gets updated at all on Overpower. Right now, it's freakin awesome with either the Fire Gamin or the Ice Gamin, because it 'kills' the target model, allowing stuff like Shatter to still work. I really like the Raspy/Kaeris combo for board control though. Ice Pillars + Fire Pillars = CRAZY board control. IMO, they are nearly broken if the opponent has Supply Wagon. Good luck getting your Wagon to the middle, LOL. yeah, ice pillars + fire pillars, bottleneck effect, funnel them right where you want them to nuke the hell out of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarragon Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 So, perhaps a list like this?... Arcanists Crew - 35 - Scrap Rasputina -- 5 Pool + Rasputina, Avatar of Famine [2ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Kaeris [8ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Now all you need to do is figure out how to use a showgirl in the list and it can be A Song of Ice and Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Performer + Mannequin 4tw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGaeth Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 Now all you need to do is figure out how to use a showgirl in the list and it can be A Song of Ice and Fire Not gonna lie, I've been thinking of how feasible it would be to have a Colette/'Tina brawl with Kaeris in the list. I imagine that Colette would have to relegated to soulstone factory duty, though those doves could be pretty damn handy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Not gonna lie, I've been thinking of how feasible it would be to have a Colette/'Tina brawl with Kaeris in the list. I imagine that Colette would have to relegated to soulstone factory duty, though those doves could be pretty damn handy. Just remember when that list turns out to be highly competive(and maybe even OP)...I was the one who named it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubertFarnsworth Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 So, perhaps a list like this?... Arcanists Crew - 35 - Scrap Rasputina -- 5 Pool + Rasputina, Avatar of Famine [2ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Kaeris [8ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Silly question with these lists: There is no way of creating/summoning these gamins correct? It seems like everyone is very eager to sacrifice these little guys. I think they do better as a picket line (Ice Gamins) so Raspy can cast her spells through them and with a Silent One's North Wind....that will keep everyone away. Kaeris does not have the ability to cast through her gamins correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I worry about the number of ss that you'll go through...both Raspy and Kaeris seem to need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGaeth Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 (edited) Just remember when that list turns out to be highly competive(and maybe even OP)...I was the one who named it Dunno if there's a chance of that. I think that the second Sonnia shows up, it's all over. Still, though, lots of fun. I worry about the number of ss that you'll go through...both Raspy and Kaeris seem to need them. Hence Colette. She'd probably just be hanging out by herself, cranking out soulstones. Maybe, maybe one or two showgirls, but that's it. Edited September 23, 2011 by GamerGaeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Laughing Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Silly question with these lists: There is no way of creating/summoning these gamins correct? It seems like everyone is very eager to sacrifice these little guys. I thought Avatar Raspy has a spell to summon more Gamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stern Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I thought Avatar Raspy has a spell to summon more Gamin That's the only way to get ice gamin mid game. Aye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 Hence Colette. She'd probably just be hanging out by herself, cranking out soulstones. Maybe, maybe one or two showgirls, but that's it. I was answering the OP. Which was Raspy and Kaeris. Colette was not mentioned in the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubertFarnsworth Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I thought Avatar Raspy has a spell to summon more Gamin Oooopss...I missed that they had purchased the Raspy Avatar in the list. Yeah, Raspy Avatar can bang them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GamerGaeth Posted September 23, 2011 Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 I was answering the OP. Which was Raspy and Kaeris. Colette was not mentioned in the OP. Ah, whoops. My bad. Yeah, I have to agree with you. Without some way to generate soulstones, that combo seems like it'd have resource management nightmares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarragon Posted September 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2011 That's what I was thinking, these guys will eat soulstones. So, Colette would work better with Kaeris? Would it be better to have a pure Raspy crew to start, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroa Posted September 24, 2011 Report Share Posted September 24, 2011 So, perhaps a list like this?... Arcanists Crew - 35 - Scrap Rasputina -- 5 Pool + Rasputina, Avatar of Famine [2ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Kaeris [8ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] sorry for the late reply first, why the second essence? only take the essence in kaeris and link it first to raspy and after that to kaeris switch it, 3 fire gamin and 2 ice gamin, you can summon 1 or 2 ice gamin midgame. you will need more fire gamins, since they are they working machine for your kaeris, AND don't forget, ice queen: friendly models within 4" in think receive frozen heart, use the ice gamin as a shield and buff kaeris, fire gamin and raspy for the extra damage, turn 1/2 shoot with the gamins, the blasts are realy usefull to hand out burning counters and +1 damage is always a good thing, and I'm not sure, but I'm quite sure accelerant receives a +1dg too since it is a damage flip. that's what i would have in mind so: Arcanists Crew - 35 - Scrap Rasputina -- 7 Pool + Rasputina, Avatar of Famine [2ss] Kaeris [8ss] Essence of Power [2ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] Fire Gamin [4ss] fire Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] Ice Gamin [4ss] you have your ss, and the second essence on kaeris is really important to link on raspy first turn, she needs it for her manifest requirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tadaka Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 No gun smith? They have plenty of fire. Plus bumping there damage up by one through frozen heart is awsome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 turn 1/2 shoot with the gamins, the blasts are realy usefull to hand out burning counters and +1 damage is always a good thing, and I'm not sure, but I'm quite sure accelerant receives a +1dg too since it is a damage flip. You seem to be confusing Buring Tokens with Blight tokens... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edonil Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 Not as it concerns accelerant, though. I have to say, I'd be more in love with the concept excepting my absolute despising of Ice Gamins...and while there may be few different between the two types, the differences between Fire and Ice mean that I'd drop the ice ones entirely in favor of Silent Ones. Besides, Frozen Heart becomes a much less useful proposition for the Avatar of Famine anyway, as she loses all access to Ice Mirror herself. I do think, however, that if you're going to run Famine the Wendigo is a good choice, because it's a 2 point Graverobber giving her early access to summoning Ice Gamin...who, while I don't feel are worth the 4 SS cost, will be handy appearing midgame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sephiroa Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 You seem to be confusing Buring Tokens with Blight tokens... +1 dg from bite of winter and giving frozen heart to models with raspy, not from the burning tokens i wrote my last post a little bit to fast i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 +1 dg from bite of winter and giving frozen heart to models with raspy, not from the burning tokens i wrote my last post a little bit to fast i think Ah, that makes more sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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