ZiggyQubert Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Just started playing Hamlin the Plagued, and had a question about the stolen, basicly when they die 3 things happen - - Horribal Realization When this model is killed or sacrificed ... model that killed / sacrificed must win a wp -> 13 dule or be paralized - Inevitable Fate When this model is killed or sacrificed ... summons a rat into base contact before it is removed from play - No Humanity When this model is killed or sacrificed ... -2 wp to everyone within 6" simplified the text a bit as I dident want to type it all out what order do these happen in? Not sure if there is something that states it ad it can make a difference looked atound the forums and dident see anything on it.. Any clairification would be welcome. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Sandwich Posted May 16, 2011 Report Share Posted May 16, 2011 Well. The generic useless answer would be "They happen at the same time." But allow me to go in depth slightly for a more reasonable order. Inevitable Fate states "Before it is removed from play" so that happens first regardless. And then No Humanity states that it generates a which cannot happen from a model that is not present, so that has to also happen before The Stolen is removed from play. And then Horrible Realization states that When this model is Killed or Sacked by a Non-Soulless model, that model must win a Wp->13 duel or receive Paralyzed. So the Order of Operations I would go with based on those rules is Step 1.) Generate a Malifaux Rat in base contact with The Stolen as per Inevitable Fate. Step 2.) Generate a 6 of -2 Wp as per No Humanity. Step 3.) Remove The Stolen from play. Step 4.) If The Stolen was killed by a Non-Soulless model, that model must win a Wp->13 duel or receive Paralyzed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 wrabbit37 Posted May 17, 2011 Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 Does that mean the -2 WP happens before a target has to resist for Understand the Soulless as well, if the model was sacrificed as the cost for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ZiggyQubert Posted May 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2011 (edited) If that is the case it also means that the rat recieves -2 wp (not realy a big deal) but as pointed out the order of the -2 wp and the paralized test is important. There is also the question of should no humanity happen before inevitable fate because it is an imideate effect (asuming here that pulses are imeadiate effects) Edited May 17, 2011 by ZiggyQubert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Just started playing Hamlin the Plagued, and had a question about the stolen, basicly when they die 3 things happen -
- Horribal Realization When this model is killed or sacrificed ... model that killed / sacrificed must win a wp -> 13 dule or be paralized
- Inevitable Fate When this model is killed or sacrificed ... summons a rat into base contact before it is removed from play
- No Humanity When this model is killed or sacrificed ... -2 wp to everyone within 6"
simplified the text a bit as I dident want to type it all out
what order do these happen in? Not sure if there is something that states it ad it can make a difference
looked atound the forums and dident see anything on it..
Any clairification would be welcome.
thanks
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