the one tyrant Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Im trying to work out a 55ss general model list to pick 35ss models out of for a tournament but cant decide what to take. Here is some initial thoughts all comments are appreciated. Zoraida Doppelganger 8 Mature neph 10 Kade 6 3 x Silurid 15 2 x stitched tgether 10 convict gun slinger 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicpockets Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Here's some ideas for you - 1. Consider Bad JuJu over the Mature Neph, his eternal ability is worth it's weight in gold, and his (0) landslide is great for finishing of groups of minions - and don't forget you can place him anywhere and up to as late as turn four - this is great for strategies and screwing with your opponents game plan. 2. Slurids and Stitched are awesome, Kade in personal experience not so much so 3. Consider Raphael LaCroix for a fast, hard hitting, resilient model - he's won me many a game. (He's WP 4 so you can take him) 4. Consider taking Pere Ravage - combined with Zoraida's obeys you can get a lot of damage in on your opponent and (due to his wording) you can do "Take Ya With Me' (or whatever his version is called) twice and kill him as opposed to loco who can only do it once. 5. Ronin's are a nice include as a bodyguard for Zoraida or against high armour crews (Dashido Blade gets +tive flip and ignores armour) and can be summoned in mid game by Zoraida if needed (if your Ronin is screwed, do it self-sac action for 2ss and summon a new one - not bad for 3ss net ) 6. Convict gunslinger is a nice model to have, but he needs the masks which Zoraida likes (Hex, Crystal Ball and Regret) and that has casued me issue before. Just some ideas, but done me very well on the tourny scene for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braindead Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 How have I never noticed that Ronin trick. Bah. I'll second Bad JuJu too. He is worth his weight in gold for objectives after being killed once. He also gives you another model that makes Wicked Dolls significant allowing a nice swarm list for objective grabbing coupled with their ability to port to Z and her Raven speed. I like Rami too. Set him up in a nice firing corridor aiming at where your opponent needs to be. I think I'm going to be at the same tournament as you. I was going to bring Z but will probably take Hoffman if I can get some games under my belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the one tyrant Posted May 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 (edited) ok so i think ive decided final list which are now built and based. Zoraida Bad juju 10 doppelganger 8 3 x slurid 15 2 x stitched together 10 2 x ronin 12 this gives me a bit of options but will probs be juju & doppelganger, then a mix of the others depending on mission. I am tempted to swap out the slurid for a coppelious (sp?) and 2 terror tots. Edited May 11, 2011 by the one tyrant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zwergenkrieger Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Some pretty nice tricks and ideas posted here! Thanks. I now have to have a second look at Zoraida. ZK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathnard Posted May 11, 2011 Report Share Posted May 11, 2011 Just off the top of my head, for a 35/55SS tournament I'd go for; 3x Silurid 15 Von Schill 10 F. Specialist 6 Insidious Madness 4 Stitched Together 5 Killjoy 12 Terror Tot 3 This is the sort of thing you need to put alot of thought into, so I could probably come up with something better but this is it for now. The silurid are amazing with grabbing objectives and have yet to let me down, so they're an auto-include. Von Schill can play the hit & run game with the silurid very well, and chews up those soulstones Zoraida cares little about Specialist for burning critters/armoured targets and getting obeyed Stitched for when I want some mobile cover and/or Wp-based damage, plus he's another great obey target. The Insidious madness helps me strip immune to influence from models and supports Zoraida and the Stitched's Wp-based attacks. He's also a goot target for summoning... Killjoy! He's fun, plus I'll occasionally just want a tank that can wade up the centre and kill everything it touches. The Terror Tot is a potential killjoy target, plus he's quick and good for being ignored while he fulfils/denies schemes and strategies. I could have added Lilitu/Lelu but honestly, I'm tired of them. They just feel too good for the points and I'd much rather keep away from the no-brainers to have some variety in my games and try new and interesting combos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicpockets Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Remember you can't take Killjoy and Freikorps in the same "on the table" list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Remember you can't take Killjoy and Freikorps in the same "on the table" list Stupid question: Why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 I could have added Lilitu/Lelu but honestly, I'm tired of them. They just feel too good for the points and I'd much rather keep away from the no-brainers to have some variety in my games and try new and interesting combos. I've noticed that I have to be conscious of not choosing them. So much more value over a pair of young nephilim (already a great deal) for only 2 points more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wodschow Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Stupid question: Why not? Killjoy is a Mercenary.. Freikorps are Freikorps Mercenaries.. And.. None of them are below 4 Wp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durek Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 Stupid question: Why not? "Freikorps Mercenary" ability states that if a Freikorps model is hired than no other merc can be hired unless they have the Freikorps Mercenary rule also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micahwc Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 "Freikorps Mercenary" ability states that if a Freikorps model is hired than no other merc can be hired unless they have the Freikorps Mercenary rule also. Okay, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gop Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Why aren't you taking the voodoo doll with Zoraida? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adran Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Why aren't you taking the voodoo doll with Zoraida? Its a summon, so it doesn't appear in the starting list would be my best guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the keeper Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 i really like neflins over bad juju with zoradia. why you may ask, well they can be obeyed, somthing bad juju cant. a mature who charges without no line of sight needed and then still can make 3 attacks (1melee expert, one obey zoradia and one obey voodoo doll), not much can resist that. i also realy like the carry ability. you can carry zoradia an extra 6" before she activates, really good to draw line of sight for summoning your voodoo doll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emissary Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 why you may ask, well they can be obeyed, somthing bad juju cant. a mature who charges without no line of sight needed and then still can make 3 attacks (1melee expert, one obey zoradia and one obey voodoo doll), not much can resist that. i also realy like the carry ability. you can carry zoradia an extra 6" before she activates, really good to draw line of sight for summoning your voodoo doll. Agreed with everything, but you cannot obey a mature into a diving attack (IE the charge without having LoS) . Diving attack is a (2) action, so can't be done in an obey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the keeper Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Agreed with everything, but you cannot obey a mature into a diving attack (IE the charge without having LoS) . Diving attack is a (2) action, so can't be done in an obey. i am aware of this, but it still rocks ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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