Buck Dog Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 It's important to have a good hard shaft..... Fnarr, Fnarr ! Anyway, I had huge problem with attaching Viktoria's hands. It was my first ever attempt at pinning anything and things didn't end well. I broke several drill bits, cut my finger, drilled through Viktorias hand and spilt a load of super glue on my leather chair, which even to this day still has a dubious looking stain on it. My ineptitude at pinning is only second to my attempts at painting... lets just say, I am now very experienced at stripping models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergoth Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 It's important to have a good hard shaft as it was bending all over the place ... Giggidy-giggidy. I know herbs that might help. Last night, the force of a light drybrush managed to dislodge the top of the one-eyed belle's parasol, taking the paint on the top of the shaft (tee hee) with it. I said words that would make a sailor blush. Can anyone suggest a good line of drill bits for very small pinning, like paperclip width, as my GW model drill comes with one-size-fits-boltgun-barrel width bits. The old one came with different sizes but they're long broken and stuck in my fingers at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyberakuma Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 p3 pinning set refills come with two drill bits and a few rods of the pinning material of the same diameter they do them in lots of sizes 0.85mm is usually ok for your average humanoid sized mini but you can get smaller ones if need be http://www.maelstromgames.co.uk/index.php?act=cat&cre=hob-fp3-mod maelstrom are pretty good on the price for these if they have them in stock if not expect a long wait before i found the refill kits for £2 odd i was usually paying £1 a drill bit by itself from the local hobby store Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratty Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 My ineptitude at pinning is only second to my attempts at painting... lets just say, I am now very experienced at stripping models. You learnt always read the can before spraying the hard way. I know we have all done it at least once in our painting career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elril Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Hmmn, the worst models I had to put together were some of WHFB monsters back in the day. If I had heard of green stuff then (15years ago) it wouldn't have been so bad, but a 5mm gap was a bitch to work around. BTW, love that belle's base Ratty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergoth Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks Cyberakuma, I'm going to order the .5mm ones which I'd say will be best for spindly undead arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tograth Posted January 18, 2011 Report Share Posted January 18, 2011 Merlin man, give me a shout when you get home - I have a ton of really small drill bits (all bar one smaller than the GW one you have) and you can hijack one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon_v Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Can anyone suggest a good line of drill bits for very small pinning, like paperclip width, as my GW model drill comes with one-size-fits-boltgun-barrel width bits. I would suggest trying to find a hobby store, not a gaming store, but something that stocks cars, trains, planes, and rockets. They seem the most likely to carry a proper range of micro bits, and at least the ones I've picked up last a heck of a lot longer than the ones Privateer and GF9 supply. As for models, I've built the Harbinger, and while she can be tricky, Lich Lord Terminus is an unholy terror to assemble. The wings! Oh, God, the wings! In general the "Wyrd problem" has more to do with their chosen scale. It's large enough that they can attempt more realistic proportions, and that results in some models simply having silly thin connection points. That's something that the sculptors and molding engineers need to work out between themselves. Every company has some models where some bad choices were made (or forced) in this regard. Privateer's older stuff tended to be guilty of this, though they got a lot better. Usually. (I'm looking at you, Mage Hunter Strike Force crossbows.) I play Arcanists, and I haven't run into anything that's driven me crazy yet, though I do hate Viktoria's hands. I hate that I dropped her and have to reglue them. I don't have any of Ramos' spindly spidery things though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchethead Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Two words, Tomb Scorpion. Hell yeah, true story. I had to resculpt 90% of my scorpion's underbelly to accommodate the sheer volume of epoxy necessary to secure the tiny, spindly legs. That thing was a nightmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Here's a couple of things I do when assembling, maybe something will help. I usually only pin items that are a bit heavier, but what I use is a simple pin vise (available at most hobby stores or on the net). For a pinning metal, I simply use paperclips. I bought a set of drill bits that are designed for the Dremel tool, but work great in the pin vise, and with various sized paperclips. I use Loctite superglue, which is widely available, and as far as I'm concerned, works better than any other superglue I've used. But, for fiddly bits, you really should get a superglue accelerator. One squirt of this stuff, and the superglue bonds instantly. I glue one piece, give the other piece a spray of the accelerator, then as soon as I put them together, they are solid. Green stuff works good as gap control, but I'm finding I like Milliput better. It's a bit more messy, but it smooths with water, and you can even do a wash of milliput to smooth areas that look a bit rough. Metal model assembly is a PITA at times, but a little prep work goes a long way . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MunkeyKungFu Posted January 19, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Here's a couple of things I do when assembling, maybe something will help. I usually only pin items that are a bit heavier, but what I use is a simple pin vise (available at most hobby stores or on the net). For a pinning metal, I simply use paperclips. I bought a set of drill bits that are designed for the Dremel tool, but work great in the pin vise, and with various sized paperclips. I use Loctite superglue, which is widely available, and as far as I'm concerned, works better than any other superglue I've used. But, for fiddly bits, you really should get a superglue accelerator. One squirt of this stuff, and the superglue bonds instantly. I glue one piece, give the other piece a spray of the accelerator, then as soon as I put them together, they are solid. Green stuff works good as gap control, but I'm finding I like Milliput better. It's a bit more messy, but it smooths with water, and you can even do a wash of milliput to smooth areas that look a bit rough. Metal model assembly is a PITA at times, but a little prep work goes a long way . the only thing I would add ontop of this sound advice is in terms of glueing, particularly with Flat metal surfaces is to score the areas you are gluing. One side vertical and the other horizontal. This will increase the surface area and give more area for the glue to bond to and will create a much more solid bind when the glue dries. First and foremost with green is never ever ever buy it from GW. Ebay or an online store. You can get about 36 inches for £7. I however use procreate and swear by it. This stuff is amazing and is great for gap filling and sculpting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supervike Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 Oh yeah, I've started using Pro-create as well. It is very good stuff, it seems much more 'workable' to me that green stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buhallin Posted January 19, 2011 Report Share Posted January 19, 2011 I absolutely hated the Cryx Stalker. Not the biggest or heaviest, but way too many contact points and literally points for feet, and no balance whatsoever. I'll also certify the Harbinger. Beautiful model, I never even tried assembling mine. Whoever decided that massive metal 3"x2" banner should be supported by a square pole thin enough to flex, AND built into her hand... Wonderful concept, horrible implementation. And I'll also pile on the over-the-shoulder Belle. Very small contact point for such a large, easy-to-hit lever, and too small to pin well. Ick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergoth Posted January 20, 2011 Report Share Posted January 20, 2011 And I'll also pile on the over-the-shoulder Belle. Very small contact point for such a large, easy-to-hit lever, and too small to pin well. Ick. Oh god that brings back memories... I finally glued the parasol to the top of her head after much cussing. It's not as pretty as I may have liked but I might like to pick her up sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordFett Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 My daughter bought Lilith's Brood with her birthday money and they have been a nightmare. Tot's arms popping off, Youngs dropping wings and Lilith's hand & sword won't stay on to save our lives. Every time she touched a model something fell off of it, she was in tears over it. Very frustrated with the whole lot right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvatarForm Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Well wyrd is now off the hook for I have started playing Hordes. I just got the Skorne boxed set and it is a joke. The titan gladiator model is a joke. Nothing fits without needing a metric ton of greenstuff to fill the gaps! You mean like some of the Nightmare LCB casts? lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citizen113 Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 One Word: Cynwall This is probably the truest thing i have read today. And I had them all, and only the dragon was easy to assemble. If none of the rest of you ever did anything with Cynwall, go look them up. The entire army is a spindly nightmare. Here are links to the offenders: http://rackhamminiatures.yolasite.com/elfs---cynwall-a---c.php http://rackhamminiatures.yolasite.com/elfs---cynwall-d---z.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WUWU Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 Haha, that Skorne boxset is one of the reasons I quit Warmahordes. What a collection of craptastic models. Still haven't put those Cyclops together. You might as well just sculpt your own arms for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightgaunt98c Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 I just finished putting together the GW daemonettes. That was the most trouble I've ever had. They have little contact points, mostly the arms, and if you move any at all while the glue sets, they ended up in the wrong position. And I'm not sure they're big enough to pin. Didn't want to ruin any of the models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WECIII Posted April 27, 2011 Report Share Posted April 27, 2011 on topic - i had one bitch of a time with the rotten belle holding her brolly over her shoulder me. Too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cats Laughing Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 Haha, that Skorne boxset is one of the reasons I quit Warmahordes. What a collection of craptastic models. Still haven't put those Cyclops together. You might as well just sculpt your own arms for them. I ended up changing factions because of the models. As much as I want to play skorne I could never assemble an army I would want to field for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEnding Posted April 28, 2011 Report Share Posted April 28, 2011 My marionettes arms refuse to stay on no matter how much green stuff I use. Uncool because the showgirls are now my Number 1 crew. That and the Mature Nephilim my friend has falls apart at least once every game. I am also now afraid of picking up Warmachine, this talk of annoying models is unnerving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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