Flesh Construct and Slow

[TroyPerez]

The Flesh Construct has a rule that it is always slow unless you discard a card at the beginning of its activation in which case it works normal. I was just curious if this means you can discards a card after it is summoned to ignore the slow effects of being summoned?

[yames]

The Flesh Construct has a rule that it is always slow unless you discard a card at the beginning of its activation in which case it works normal. I was just curious if this means you can discards a card after it is summoned to ignore the slow effects of being summoned?

im going to say no but im no one important becuase the discarding a card is to stop dumb from giving it slow. if he had slow printed on his card and it was worded like discard a control card to cancel slow till the end close phase then i would say yea

[ProdigalPunk]

If you discard the card then you are not effected by dumb, but that is independent of the summoning so you would still be slow from that. Discarding the card does not get rid of slow, but not discarding it gives the model slow. Since it is already slow then it is usually best to not discard a card on the summoning turn, unless you have a black joker, then if you discard it you can give it fast, which will negate the slow and give him a normal activation.

[Peterdita]

It has been official ruled somewhere, (sorry I don't have the thread) but, NO you cannot lose slow the summoning turn by discarding a card.

@Prodigalpunk: where'd you get the idea you can discard the black joker and gain fast? House rule or something? Never, ever heard of that before.

[Mach_5]

Its right in the last line of the Flesh Constructs "Dumb" rule, if the card you discard is a joker (not just black joker, but why you would discard the red I don't know) the Flesh Construct gains Fast.

[ProdigalPunk]

What he said.

The math is like this:

Summoned = Slowed

Joker = Fast

Any other card = nothing special

No Card = Slow

So Joker + Summoned = Regular Activation as Fast + Slow = regular activation.

Anything else results in a slow activation the summoned turn.

[TroyPerez]

Thanks for the info. I was playing him wrong, lol. I was assuming that since slow didn't stack up that the summoning slow would go away as well as the flesh contructs rule that makes it slow, lol.

[Q'iq'el]

Thanks for the info. I was playing him wrong, lol. I was assuming that since slow didn't stack up that the summoning slow would go away as well as the flesh contructs rule that makes it slow, lol.

Yup, Slow and Fast are special and have their own section in the Book 1 to explain this.

Basically they cancel each other until only one type is left, and then they don't stack.

Slow + Slow + Slow + Fast = Slow + Slow = 1 Slow