huntroll Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 Its tough since he is a high cost model to get in there , but can make Ryle a crazy gun platform ! . Hoffmans crew already comes in at a low model count so a non construct for 10 points might not be the best choice . In higher points games I'd take him because he is awesome, but I agree with you, at lower and average (30-35) points I wouldn't take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Baws Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 In Brawls his net cost is zero if you don't use a second master Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 At a normal 35 stone game I would go Hoffman peacekeeper guardian watcher watcher toolkit ryle leaves me rocking 6 soul stones 5 Soul stones - the Tool kit costs 4 because its out of faction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted May 10, 2011 Report Share Posted May 10, 2011 In Brawls his net cost is zero if you don't use a second master He still costs you the ability to take a second 'proper' Master, but I think there's lots of Synergy there: - Hoffman loves Constructs, but after a certain point he doesn't really gain from having any more. - Lucius can provide a different type of unit - and a solid back up of Guardsmen and Austringers can give the ranged punch that a traditional Hoffman list is missing (besides Ryle). - With Maintain Machines, Lucius is able to give orders to Ryle, meaning between them Hoffman and Lucius can turn Ryle into a focal point of pain with 9 shots... - Lucius can use Reinforcements to capture objectives that Hoffman might otherwise struggle with (as he likes to bunch up). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Baws Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 What about the Drill Seargent as a way to offshoot Tap Power? He can in a way keep up to Hoffman via linking. He could be given to Lucius if you use him too. Being a Guardsman has synergies with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 What about the Drill Seargent as a way to offshoot Tap Power? He can in a way keep up to Hoffman via linking. He could be given to Lucius if you use him too. Being a Guardsman has synergies with him. Not entirely sure what you mean by off shooting Tap Power? He is useful with Lucius, if you're taking other stuff Lucius likes (Guardsmen) - he does little for Lucius himself... He'd really be a sub par totem choice for Hoffman, unless you were bringing lots of Guardsmen for support (The strength is maximising firing squad, so you want plenty of shooty Guardsmen)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Big Baws Posted May 12, 2011 Report Share Posted May 12, 2011 Not entirely sure what you mean by off shooting Tap Power? He is useful with Lucius, if you're taking other stuff Lucius likes (Guardsmen) - he does little for Lucius himself... He'd really be a sub par totem choice for Hoffman, unless you were bringing lots of Guardsmen for support (The strength is maximising firing squad, so you want plenty of shooty Guardsmen)... He can remove the Slow that Tap Power gives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearLord Posted May 13, 2011 Report Share Posted May 13, 2011 He can remove the Slow that Tap Power gives. Yeah, I remembered that spell after I went to bed - I forgot it in the first place because I never use it with Lucius - I think he's a little expensive to use just for that - especially when there are 2 decent Totems for Hoffman already - the tool kit has some excellent abilities for Hoffman, who can really benefit from healing flips and the like. The Mechanical attendant is a cheap, significant minion with a decent ranged attack. I would only bother with the Drill Sergeant if I had lots of Guardsmen for Firing Squad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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