Blackmore Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Why is there such hate for <Sonnia Criid? Am I the only person in the world who thinks her crew looks amazing? What is so tactically unsound about her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CserZ Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 Sonnia is OK, but she is the "most complicated" Guild Master :-) Perdita kill you with two shots (one, if the Fate is Right) if you're in range. Period. Lady J kill you if you are in charge range. Period. With Sonnia you must play the game to be effective :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mortificator Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I love the look of the models and the fluff for Criid herself. I honestly wouldn't ever touch either Perdita or LJ, they don't appeal to me even with their rules. Any of my feelings about her lack of punch has been discussed in another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarrazon Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 She's too good. :bigthumb: No, like you, I'm amazed by the amount of hate I've seen for her, from what I've played (against her, I've never tried using her) she hits like a sledgehammer and can do it well in melee, magic, and even decently in shooting. She's the least specialized, and possibly hardest to play of the Guild masters, but neither of those are really bad things. I'd guess the hate stems from the second, seeing as the Guild is something of a "starter" faction in some people's eyes - they're fairly simple, each in a single role, and that role is easy to learn. Sonia bucks those trends, but again, really not a bad thing. (In my eyes, at least) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higherbrow Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 The times I tried LJ and Perdita I found them really boring. Sonnia's combination of spellcasting and melee ability, and her awesome triggers, made her appeal a lot to me. Of all the masters I've seen, she's the most suited to switching between ranged fights and melee fights, depending on what the enemy doesn't want to see. Perdita can fight in melee, but you won't see her charging Nicodem or Tina the way Sonnia will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mortificator Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 It's worth noting that, from my experience, running Sonnia's box against either of the other Guild boxes is rather disheartening. Their simplicity and lack of needing to get spells off lends to them making short work of Sonnia and her witchlings and Samael can't stand alone against the Ortegas or a trio of Marshals. The latter I definitely feel to be a points issue however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgraz Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 No hate here. I think she is a great tool box master. I started with Perdita and I still love her but I'm starting to use Sonnia more and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I think its the cloves she smokes - I mean really ... cloves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demonherald Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 and most men who play the game feel their masculinity being challenged by a chick who smokes n battle while wielding a sword that size.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmore Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 Lol. Great answers guys. Thanks for clearing it up. Especially Demonherald Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoM Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Sonnia and Rasuptina have stayed on top since beta testing. They're not over powered, they're not one trick ponies, and they can put out massive damage while still supporting their crews. People hate on Sonnia because they're looking for the easy button. You see that they love Samael for Flaming Bullets, but ignore his shorter ranged spells that are more crippling in the big picture. Sonnia requires depth. Don't charge someone assuming you'll get the kill with the sword. Charge them when they've already activated, and use Inferno to add insult to injury. Playing Claim Jump with a choke point to enter the terrain? Flame Walls are a great way to help keep your VP's at 4 instead of 2. Got a model with 1 Wd left, Violation of Magic will get you a brand new Witchling Stalker instead. If it's a Witchling with only 1 Wd, you get Immolating Demise on top of that! Sonnia's sword is great. Hit someone with an important spell, and you're not going to have to worry about that spell next turn. You're going to heal, get a control card, and force discards as well. The Ortegas are flashy. They shoot, and they're fast. Justice can slice and dice on her own. They're good, but they can't change gears very easily if things aren't going their way. I played with my Ortegas again for the first time in months at a tournament two weeks ago. I played a Sonnia-led crew in Rnd 1, and Rnd 2's Ortega crew just felt weak and restrictive in comparison. Here's the list I used at 30 stones: Sonnia Purifying Flame Witchling Stalkers x2 Death Marshal Nino Ortega Convict Gunslinger 7 stones, plenty of ranged attacks, solid melee, card control, magic, and anti-magic. What's not to like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eckythump Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I do think there is a bit more of a learning curve with the Criid box set than the other 2. Since my main opponent has Lady J, I learnt quickly how fast Criid will disappear without support. That said, I now have at least 7 SS for her to use in game. It makes the spells a lot easier to cast (even just for the confiscated lore alone) and also lets me use her in a more offensive manner in the front line with SS adding to her DF. As has been said, she can do almost anything required; ranged damage, area denial or summoning explodeymans. I had a really awesome 45 SS game a couple of weeks ago where she summoned 3 witchling stalkers over the course of the game with careful targeting of Hard to Kill models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 lol, Hard to Kill is Sonnia's BEST friend it seems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperbag4 Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 My reckless Gremlins keep turning into Witchling Stalkers too. Gets kind of annoying after awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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