Werecat Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 So, I've been looking into possible proxy models until the correct ones come out. I've got the Canine Remains and Mindless Zombies pegged easy, but I really want to find a proxy for Bete. So, can any of you Wyrd guys give me a general idea of what she looks like? Any general direction would be greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sushicaddy Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I assumed it was her on Pg. 89 of the rulebook. But I may be wrong, may be a as yet unkown Res master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werecat Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 I thought that might be the case as well, but wanted some confirmation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Khan Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 AFAIK, none of the artwork in the book is of actual characters... more just "some random schmuck in Malifaux". Stats for a female Res master (like the pic mentioned above) were tossed around a while back, there's a thread around here somewhere... Back on topic: I am thinking of using the Freebooter female assassin as a Bete Noir proxy: I might do a little conversion work and add some mist/shadows/etc.. around her for sort of a "one with night"/ghostly phantom theme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werecat Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Nice! That would work. I was also thinking of the deathwalker that comes with Goreshade from Warmachine. No knives, but very undead. Then again, I'd have to mess with bits ordering it... Edited September 23, 2009 by Werecat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werecat Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Also, follow up question: Can anyone who has a solid understanding of linguistics fill me in on how to pronounce Bete Noire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orius Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 bete noire looks like liquid smoke awesomness wrapped up in pure unadulterated magnificience! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhoenixEnvy Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Also, follow up question: Can anyone who has a solid understanding of linguistics fill me in on how to pronounce Bete Noire? "bet new-R" is the easiest way to get close using English syllables. In theory, this link will play it for you as an audio file. Also, if not painted like a vampire, Lenora from Gamezone might make a good choice. I feel like she should have some flowiness, but be distinctly female and inhuman at the same time. I might even go for something a little more bestial if there's something out there with flowing robes and claws. Edited September 23, 2009 by PhoenixEnvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Angus, Consider that proxy idea stolen . Was just thinking about if I wanted to use her in the tourney coming up and I was trying to figure out what model to use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) "bet new-R" is the easiest way to get close using English syllables. In theory, this link will play it for you as an audio file. Also, if not painted like a vampire, Lenora from Gamezone might make a good choice. I feel like she should have some flowiness, but be distinctly female and inhuman at the same time. I might even go for something a little more bestial if there's something out there with flowing robes and claws. Bete Noire is french for Black Betty isn't it ? And it's escaping me at the moment, but Black Betty is a cultural reference to .... something. .... in america, isn't it? I may be off base with either / both of those there, but my spidey sense is tingling. Love the freebooter proxy, btw! May have to pick one of those up for use in my leve lists for Bete! Just checked - its french for "black beast". I know its unlikely, but i hope that the concept art of the pale ressi chick behind the grave in the book ends up being black betty. I think that would be somehow fitting rather than a slavering rotting monster. More like a serial killer born of nightmares rather than a monster. Edited September 23, 2009 by Haight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redstripe Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Calling Bete Noire Black Betty was a bit of an in joke for a while. Noire means dark or black and Bete visually looks a lot like the word Betty. In reality Bete means "beast" in french and so together the words might be "Dark Beast." That is the literal interpretation of the words but the phrase, according to Dictionary.com means: bête noire [beyt nwahr] –noun, a person or thing especially disliked or dreaded; bane; bugbear. Origin: 1835–45; < F: lit., black beast It can often mean a dark thought or sinister idea, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werecat Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 From Wikipedia: " "Black Betty" (Roud 11668) is a 20th century African-American work song often credited to Huddie "Lead Belly" Ledbetter as the author, though the earliest recordings are not by him. Some sources claim it is one of Lead Belly's many adaptations of earlier folk material;[1] in this case an 18th century marching cadence about a flint-lock rifle. The origin and meaning of the lyrics are subject to debate. Some sources claim the song is derived from an 18th century marching cadence about a flint-lock musket with a black painted stock; the "bam-ba-lam" lyric referring to the sound of the gunfire. Soldiers in the field were said to be "hugging Black Betty". In this interpretation, the rifle was superseded by its "child", a rifle with an unpainted walnut stock known as a "Brown Bess".[7] The earliest meaning of "Black Betty" in the United States (from at least 1827) was a liquor bottle.[8][9] In January 1736, Benjamin Franklin published The Drinker's Dictionary in the Pennsylvania Gazette offering 228 round-about phrases for being drunk. One of those phrases is "He's kiss'd black Betty."[10][11] David Hackett Fischer, in his book Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways in America (Oxford University Press, 1989), states that "Black Betty" was a common term for a bottle of whiskey in the borderlands of northern England/southern Scotland, and later in the backcountry areas of the eastern United States. In an interview[12] conducted by Alan Lomax with a former prisoner of the Texas penal farm named Doc Reese (aka "Big Head"), Reese stated that the term "Black Betty" was used by prisoners to refer to the "Black Maria" — the penitentiary transfer wagon." So, not anything that would be specifically associated with Bete Noire. But I fully support the nic-name of black betty. We might as well get the weirdo nicnames in this game like Junior, Abel, Gaspy, all that good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathan Caroland Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well, all I'll give up is that 'she' has been concepted and will make an appearance likely before the end of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus Khan Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 (edited) Well, all I'll give up is that 'she' has been concepted and will make an appearance likely before the end of the year. Looking forward to it! @Nilus: Glad you liked the proxy suggestion... there has always been something I liked about that mini. Edited September 23, 2009 by Angus Khan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Well, all I'll give up is that 'she' has been concepted and will make an appearance likely before the end of the year. Sweet! She's one of my more highly anticipated models to see (and i feel confidant saying i'm not alone there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werecat Posted September 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 Aw, come on Nathan! Not even a measly, teeny tiny bone thrown our way? The brutality! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zee Posted September 23, 2009 Report Share Posted September 23, 2009 The Lass might be a good proxy if painted all Undead like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkenstein Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Whoo-oh black Betty wham a lam... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nilus Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Whoo-oh black Betty wham a lam... Anyone else think of that movie Kung-Pow when they here this song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gru6y Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 I think of NFS:U2 And as a matter of fact was murmuring the song when read junkenstein's post. Creepy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ork56 Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 if she is an undead type lady, how about the Freebooter 'Undead Lady' as a variation on a theme from the belles? http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/shopimages/UNT001_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php%3FxProd%3D2077&usg=__cGXj33wtnIJhYgAEKrWfSNtAomw=&h=400&w=300&sz=40&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=J4RnDhF0c8gjNM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfreebooter%2Bundead%2Blady%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caronte Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 I will wait for the wyrd model , but if someone want to use a proxi, here is another option: http://privateerpress.com/iron-kingdoms/miniatures/umbral-sorcerer-infernal-umbral-reaver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblyn13 Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 if she is an undead type lady, how about the Freebooter 'Undead Lady' as a variation on a theme from the belles? http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/shopimages/UNT001_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.coolminiornot.com/store/product.php%3FxProd%3D2077&usg=__cGXj33wtnIJhYgAEKrWfSNtAomw=&h=400&w=300&sz=40&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=J4RnDhF0c8gjNM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfreebooter%2Bundead%2Blady%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-GB:official%26sa%3DG The only bad thing is that the Freebooter undead lady : The miniature consists of 5 parts and has a total height of 42 mm. She's a bit too big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morodant Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Actually mes amis, bete noire means: black beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I heard a rumor a photo of her may have been sighted in the next Wyrd Chronicles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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