Coyotebreaks Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 in cursed objects if you summon an insignificant model, can it be given a cursed object token? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2 solkan Posted May 7, 2023 Report Share Posted May 7, 2023 It's very important to note the specific phrases involved, because "Breaking the Rules" cares about the direct contradictions. Cursed Object says Quote When a model is Summoned, the opposing player may place a Curse Token on it. The summoning rules currently say Quote On the turn they are Summoned, Summoned models cannot take the Interact Action and are ignored for friendly Schemes and Strategies. Additionally, Summoned models cannot take the Interact Action to affect Strategy Markers in any way for the entire encounter. and the definition of Insignificant is Quote models with the Insignificant Ability are ignored for the purposes of Strategies and Schemes in every way. The limitations placed on summoned models by the summoning rules is very similar to the effect of being Insignificant, the rules DO NOT MAKE THEM Insignificant for a turn. "Summoned models are insignificant the turn they are summoned" is a false and misleading statement. If you summon a model that does not have the Insignificant ability, the direct statement in the Strategy will allows the opposing player to place a Curse Token on it. Note that summoning rules state that summoned models are ignored for "friendly Schemes and Strategies" on the turn in which they are summoned, and that Cursed Object is specifying a situation involving enemy models ("the opposing player may ..."), so there is no contradiction between the strategy and summoning rules. If you summon a model that DOES have the Insignificant ability, Cursed Object says nothing about Insignificant and thus does not directly contradict it. (See also previous paragraph.) Because Insignificant is not contradicted, and the specified interaction in strategy does not mention Insignificant, the Insignificant rule applies and the summoned Insignificant model gets ignored--the opposing player cannot place Cursed Token on the model that the strategy is ignoring. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Adran Posted March 4, 2023 Report Share Posted March 4, 2023 No, the model is ignored for strategy and schemes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Okairo Posted May 5, 2023 Report Share Posted May 5, 2023 A cursed token may be put in any summoned model by your opponent when it is summoned. It is explained on the strategy card. If an insignificant model kills someone with a cursed object on it, the objects will just spread to the closest teammates without collecting the point (since you can't score with insignificant models). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 TheUnseemlyOne Posted May 6, 2023 Report Share Posted May 6, 2023 For Cursed Objects, it doesn’t matter how the enemy model with the curse token dies, only that it does. So an enemy could get killed by an insignificant models, hazardous terrain, falling damage, etc. It can matter for other strategies, like Turf War for example. That one says “ When a friendly model kills an enemy model…” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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in cursed objects if you summon an insignificant model, can it be given a cursed object token?
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