The Dreamer Insomniac Musings

[JayMalifaux87]

With the new Malifaux Burns book released, I decided to play my first title master, The Dreamer Insomniac. I lost, 3-5, but only about 30% of my problem was bad flips. I probably should've taken more models with the lucid dreams bonus action, and Lady Yume. In other words, time to do some more building, LOL. I'm still learning how to use the sleepless wonder, but it seems really powerful. with insomniac dreamer, you can build a bad to the bone control hand over the course of 2 turns, or 1 if you activate the dreamer last. plus you can take Lady Yume, instead of Chompy, because you can summon Chompy with a masks trigger on an attack action! combine that with some scheme running tactical abilities, and voila! you have a very well rounded master. The only drawback IMO is that Dreamer Insomniac doesn't deal much damage, so not exactly a power house when it comes to that. You'll have to try to keep your minions alive long enough to outscore your opponent. also, don't know if you'd want to have a SS pool bigger than about 4-6 with this crew. I know, big words for someone who has only played the crew once, LOL. So, am I way off? let me know, and as always happy gaming!

[SEV]

He's really strong. 100% support master, but what support does he provides (the +flip on key duels is awesome)! He also has an insane mobility so he can help a lot at scheming.

I only played 3 games with him so far, so I'm still learning as well. 

I think you need at least 4 LD models, but 5 to 6 seems more reasonable (so you don't have to rely on Dreamer himself to get a new hand). You should always get 1 extra hand each turn imo. If you don't something is going wrong or your're lacking LD models.

10 minutes ago, JayMalifaux87 said:

you can take Lady Yume, instead of Chompy

I don't understand what you mean here. LCB is free... Being able to consume him with Lady Y and summon him back in position is a nice combo though.

But yes taking Yume is a great idea. She's quite good (be careful though, terrifying 12 is good, but she'll get murder in one activation against a real beater).

Beside Yume, I like serena and/or WW... Than it's all minions. Madness are amazing since there great mobility give you teleportation points for the little kid.

Daydream are still useful. Cheap LD is cheap LD and moving your models around is important (dreamer can do it too, but extra reposition effect are rarely dead). 

I didn't tried Alp yet. They can work with onoephobia, but they loose a lot of appeals if they're not summons.

Stitched are stitched. They're even better here since they game you an other way to manipulate your remove from the game piles. If you have WW, there's a case to hire dolls instead and upgrade them (LCB can kill them t1)...

Finally I think there's a full execute meme crew that can work(ish). Since you have the best card selection in the entire game (+ss), it's easy to get high crows late in the turn. In keyword you have 3 execute models, two o wich are hench (LCB, Lady Y and The Carver) and you could even hire Kade... you can put decent hand pressure on your opponent at the beginning of the turn, than swap your hand for a bunche of high crows and start executing key models and enjoy.

[JayMalifaux87]

Yup, I had a brain-fart lol. Chompy is a totem. thanks for the reminder!

[Saviouress]

My Dreamer2 game didn't go to well (probably because I was up against Orphelia1).  Most of my models got shot off the table really quickly. Inferiority Complex is no fun, especially for Lady Yume (Nightmare in general).

I did bury an Alp into one of my opponents already weakened models via (Onoephobia), but he just killed the model himself. Denying me the positioning advantage (I assumed my Alp had to unbury in my deployment zone now).

Another thing I was unsure about that came up: If you resummon an already activated Lord Chompy back into the round is it possible to activate him again, or is it treated as the same Lord chompy?

[SEV]

You do have access to a lot of terrifying models against Kin... and they only have 2 Inferiority Complex.

But yeah playing against Ophelia can be brutal.

[Adran]

8 hours ago, Saviouress said:

 

Another thing I was unsure about that came up: If you resummon an already activated Lord Chompy back into the round is it possible to activate him again, or is it treated as the same Lord chompy?

For the purpose of the game it is treated as a new Lord chompy for all reasons, so it can activate again. 

[Hawkoon]

On 11/24/2021 at 8:44 AM, Adran said:

For the purpose of the game it is treated as a new Lord chompy for all reasons, so it can activate again. 

Lord Chompy Bits the 2'nd, heir to the throne of Nytemare 🤣

[SEV]

9 hours ago, Hawkoon said:

Lord Chompy Bits the 2'nd, heir to the throne of Nytemare 🤣

It'll be harder to get there since it can't do strat anymore.

[extremor]

Played my first game with insomniac and have to say that ist is way more fun than og dreamer. 
 

played:

Insomniac (Neverborn)
Size: 50 - Pool: 3
Leader:
  The Dreamer, Insomniac
Totem(s):
  Lord Chompy Bits
Hires:
  Teddy 2
  Widow Weaver
  Insidious Madness
  Insidious Madness 3
  Bear ly Together 3
  Bear ly Together 2
  Daydream

 

Ok Dreamer is support and hand control now instead of summon deck control. That suits him good. The keyword still is realy Good and works well. 
dreamer, weaver and madness do the scheming. Daydream provide speed and the Rest is tough to deal with… 

 

didnt need too many stones so 3ss went all right. And didnt need AP either. 

[SEV]

@extremor what was the pool? I rarely bring Teddy so I'm wondering how it performed for you.

 

[extremor]

Er played Break the line on a wedge deployment. 
schemes were: 

spread them out, bait n swich, leg them bleed, breakthrough and Research Mission. 
i took breakthrough and Research Mission. Easy peasy. 
 

played against bayou zipp and took breakthrough and Research Mission. 
 

 

teddy was my Last Choice of this List, just because i had 13 ss left and thought I could use some tankyness and muscle. He killed an Iron skeeter and an gator-that my Opponent slightiy overextended. But there could have Been better choices. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[SEV]

I'm playing Isomniac in this scenario : Symbols/standard. 

Assassinate, Detonate, Spread,  Vendetta, Martyrs 

Agaisnt Outcast Zipp

I went with this crew :

Symbols Dreamer (Neverborn)
Size: 50 - Pool: 6
Leader:
  The Dreamer, Insomniac
Totem(s):
  Lord Chompy Bits
Hires:
  Candy
  Insidious Madness
  Insidious Madness 2
  Insidious Madness 3
  Lady Yume
  Stitched Together
 

Usually I use the Spiders in Symbols, but it's trivial for zip to chase them (especially Bandy). Triple madness increase the terrifying count and are much more tanky. Candy is a tech piece to disrupt the captain (she is a nice vendetta target so maybe it was not the best idea).

Lady Y, Chompy and Stitch can defend pretty well. I Like the double execute threat from LCB and Lady Y.

Dreamer can go back and forth to support the madness and come back to defend. He's almost impossible to assassinate if play correctly.

Spread is not a good idea against Infamous, beside that all the scheme are doable. I tough for a while about bringing a Alp instead of a Stitch so all the models would be eligible for Martyrs, but stitch are so useful with Insomniac I couldn't go to 0.

 

Tough/comments? 

[Saviouress]

On 12/10/2021 at 7:58 PM, SEV said:

Tough/comments? 

I usually don't feel good relying on Terrifying against Bayou, because they can just buy 2x Inferiority Complex Upgrades to get access to Ruthless, which I definitely would do against a Dreamer Crew. Either way Insidious Madnessees (?) are still great models even without the Terrifying. Ignore me I didn't catch it's Outcast 🙈

I still like having one or two Daydreams around in that list for cheap movement and card removal, Soulstones are only needed for the Henchman, as Dreamer himself feels very save.

I guess you can try to use Candy defensively and try to make Yume and Chompy fast during the earlier turns. That way she's maybe out of reach for Vendetta for some time. And she can still interfere with the Captain in my experience Zipp is coming to you anyway. She might get abducted by Zipp though Sz 1 vs Sz 3 Attack doesn't look like fun.