Half Health calculation

[Vessien]

Hi, quick rules question about "halves":

 

If I understood it correctly, following the "Math" rules, except for movement, everything is rounded up.

 

Then, in schemes such as "Let Them Bleed" and "Assasinate", which is the "half" Health for a model with 7 Health, 3 or 4? Would Assasinate be scored if the "old" Dreamer has 4 Health left?

[Vessien]

10 hours ago, santaclaws01 said:

Not really a reference supporting anything. Just the opinion of some other players.

Well, one of the most remarkable podcasts around is a good reference. Not official at all obviously.

10 hours ago, belorey said:

Thats why i said this need a FAQ, because there is nothing sure. 

+1 for the FAQ request

[santaclaws01]

2 hours ago, Vessien said:

Well, one of the most remarkable podcasts around is a good reference.

Not really. For everything Kyle and Brien are, rules people they are not

[olonsdale]

The mathematical operation being carried out here returns a boolean (True/False) answer:

Current health (integer) =< max health/2

Rounding should not be required as in this case the value is not a game variable (unless it is being used to generate an amount of damage, such as the forgotten Marshall summon upgrade)

This entirely avoids the issue of there being a case where you've rounded wrong for odd health models.

I do agree this should be FAQd though as it is easy to come to any of these conclusions.

[HawkHaines]

On 2/27/2022 at 6:24 AM, olonsdale said:

The mathematical operation being carried out here returns a boolean (True/False) answer:

Current health (integer) =< max health/2

Rounding should not be required as in this case the value is not a game variable ...

Maximum Health is a game value. Even though the scheme as a whole returns a boolean answer, you still have to divide before you can make the boolean comparison. Since all division operations in Malifaux other than distance return the value rounded up to the nearest integer, a character with 7 max health is at half or less not when their health is at 3.5 or less.

This is because in Malifaux the division operation itself has special properties, so whenever you divide you immediately round values.

[Maniacal_cackle]

2 hours ago, HawkHaines said:

This is because in Malifaux the division operation itself has special properties, so whenever you divide you immediately round values.

Is there any basis for this in the rulebook? The rulebook just says to round the sum (final product), doesn't it?

So you should perform all calculations before rounding the final answer is my understanding.

[HawkHaines]

8 hours ago, Maniacal_cackle said:

Is there any basis for this in the rulebook? The rulebook just says to round the sum (final product), doesn't it?

That's a great point that is definitely worth including! I think that the intent of the rulebook is that you finish your mathematical operation and then round, yes. I think they are either using sum to mean (final product) or in the sense it is used in British English to mean "math equation". Traditionally American English only uses sum to mean the result of addition. 

In any case, I would say that my prior logic is incorrect, but I still think that you should round up before doing the logical comparison, since "logical comparison" is not an operation in that Math callout box.