Bayou bash, Jockeys

[Thatguy]

So we've seen Stumpy and Fluffernutter so far. Any thoughts? 

And predictions for the rest?

I'm hoping the Jockey Henchmen adds some sort of mobility boost. Move 6 and 4 doesn't seem much like they're racing around the board. Rooster Riders and most Pigs leave them in the dust. 

[Maniacal_cackle]

Oh, gross, movement 4, did not realise that. And no rush, so it really is that slow. Throw in Toss In The Mud still not having a melee icon, and this model is way more of a let-down than I thought xD Stuck in the swamp is a super sweet trigger though.

[Maniacal_cackle]

Althoughhhh I guess you can rampage your own models no problem, so if you have something worth charging, this is actually a 13" move per turn model, not a terrible move rate. But not so good its worth the damage. Built in suit on the charge guarantees it though.

[Thatguy]

13 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said:

Althoughhhh I guess you can rampage your own models no problem, so if you have something worth charging, this is actually a 13" move per turn model, not a terrible move rate. But not so good its worth the damage. Built in suit on the charge guarantees it though.

Yeah I thought the same. Maybe in crews that have armor. So you can get the movement for less wounds. 

Kind of surprised Stumpy doesn't have armor. Though he does have df6 and 8 wounds, which isn't bad for the cost.

[Maniacal_cackle]

Just now, Thatguy said:

Yeah I thought the same. Maybe in crews that have armor. So you can get the movement for less wounds. 

Kind of surprised Stumpy doesn't have armor. Though he does have df6 and 8 wounds, which isn't bad for the cost.

Yeah, when I saw those stats I thought he was awesome, but I assumed move 6 xD

[touchdown]

it's also weird they don't have unimpeded like other mounted models

[Maniacal_cackle]

The 2/4/5 damage track is also pretty serious business, considering it is stat 6 on the charge with built in suit. Can be devastatingly powerful. But so much has to line up.

[Maniacal_cackle]

Just now, touchdown said:

it's also weird they don't have unimpeded like other mounted models

Maybe they're used to racetracks with no obstacles.

[Thatguy]

8 minutes ago, touchdown said:

it's also weird they don't have unimpeded like other mounted models

Stumpy has Planted Roots, so gets so ignore severe. 

[Maniacal_cackle]

Overall, I'm glad these models aren't bonkers powerful and absolute must-buys as far as I can see so far. Much better if there's just a regular power level for the starters.

[SEV]

 The three is really slow though (at least give him ambush like his waldgeist kin). I'm not sure when I should hired him.

I like the rabbits as a missile. I see him as a trading piece. I think he can take down a key pieces before dying and sometimes it's all you ask from your 6ss enforcers.

Also pulled from the hat is guaranteed if you want to. This is good utility. It can be situationally better than surge.

[Thatguy]

7 hours ago, SEV said:

The three is really slow though (at least give him ambush like his waldgeist kin). I'm not sure when I should hired him.

That's a good point. It makes me a little more confident that they'll get some sort of speed boost. 

It would be embarrassing to be a Jockey and get outraced by a Waldgeist. Lol

 

 

Any ideas on how you might use the models with their other key words? Fluffernutter seems like it would be good for doing small amounts of no resist flip damage to finish off Hard to Kill models. I'm not sure what else he'd do for Wong. The ping pulse for Hard Knock Life seems good, but I'm not sure you need that with Wong doing it too. 

Stumpy seems like it might be good as a cheap tarpit for Zorida. If you run on it's Aura and charge into base it can lock it down pretty well. Even if it disengages half movement means it's not getting very far.

 

 

[SEV]

2 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Any ideas on how you might use the models with their other key words?

Rabbit can charge his own model, automatic hat trigger for a fast +glowy  on the target and a card (bonus point if the RJ is in the discard). 

Three is a fine tarpit... But I don't see what he brings to Mama Z specifically... if toss in the mud was a melee action, a guaranteed mass staggering would be awesome but as is o really don't know what I'm supposed to do with this model.

 

[Cats Laughing]

3 hours ago, SEV said:

Rabbit can charge his own model, automatic hat trigger for a fast +glowy  on the target and a card (bonus point if the RJ is in the discard). 

Three is a fine tarpit... But I don't see what he brings to Mama Z specifically... if toss in the mud was a melee action, a guaranteed mass staggering would be awesome but as is o really don't know what I'm supposed to do with this model.

 

Takes some set up, but if you have a friendly model that will survive 3 damage within ~3" of the enemy bubble, you could charge that model, rampage through them, then toss them in the mud for the stagger bomb.

 

Though rereading the Spread Roots ability, maybe this doesn't work if you're relying on that ability to provide the terrain, since your friendly model doesn't count it as terrain.

[Math Mathonwy]

Both are Sz2 so can ride around on Gracie (hilarious!), Tossed by Alphonse or Lenny, or be hauled by Skeeters which could help Stumpy especially.

[Thatguy]

We saw the Catalan Rifle Corps Henchman yesterday. She seems like she offered a lot of crew synergy with Shouting Orders and Inginuity. 

Any bets/hopes for the Jockey Henchman?

[touchdown]

the Jockey keyword abilities seem to be stampede and ramming speed, so maybe something that gives out extra charges?

[Thatguy]

1 minute ago, touchdown said:

the Jockey keyword abilities seem to be stampede and ramming speed, so maybe something that gives out extra charges?

Maybe we can get a Ninja rider with The Oyabun's Command. 

[Stumpyfjord]

I’ve been poking the idea of Stumpy with Zipp. I haven’t gotten either on the table yet, so still completely theory. 
 

Zipp’s crew has a lot of helpful OOA movement to help mitigate the weakness and Stumpy’s strengths play to Zipps strengths (Area denial and AP control).

[Thatguy]

2 hours ago, Stumpyfjord said:

Zipp’s crew has a lot of helpful OOA movement to help mitigate the weakness and Stumpy’s strengths play to Zipps strengths (Area denial and AP control).

I like the idea. With the severe terrain aura anything Zipp throws in will have more difficulties getting out. 

I'm not sure Stumpy is up to being a tarpit though. Other than df6 he doesn't have any defense tech. He's got 8 wounds but it probably going to be in 6-7 if he used his bonus and stampeded. 

[Thatguy]

New Jockey Spoiled. 

I think this is my favorite so far mv7, Scamper and Crazed Chicken are significantly more movement tricks. 

[SEV]

The movement tricks are great. He can also give you some kind of activation control which I think must not be underestimate. But he'll also die to pretty much anything. Scanner being is only def tech. 7 wounds are fine for 6ss... But with Stampede and Crazed chickens that will drop fast.

[fire5tone]

14 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

New Jockey Spoiled. 

I think this is my favorite so far mv7, Scamper and Crazed Chicken are significantly more movement tricks. 

It also goes to mah and has 2 ways of pushing people on traps

[Thatguy]

18 minutes ago, SEV said:

he'll also die to pretty much anything. Scanner being is only def tech. 7 wounds are fine for 6ss... But with Stampede and Crazed chickens that will drop fast.

Yeah. No defense tech, 7 wounds and multiple abilities that want you too burn wounds to use them.

10 minutes ago, fire5tone said:

t also goes to mah and has 2 ways of pushing people on traps

Yeah seems like Mah is the big winner so far. 

He looks pretty fun with some Test Subjects. He can burn a wound to let them all charge.

[fire5tone]

wait, question, so the normal push on the gun only happens if you succeed right? but the trigger says "after resolving increase push to 4" am i correct in thinking that you can push a beast regardless of success?