dannydb Posted February 5, 2021 Report Share Posted February 5, 2021 So for nerfs colette and sandeep are the two that need looking at Colettes keyword is full of don't mind me which is incredibly useful in 3 of the 4 strategies in gg1, this is before we get to presto chago, sword trick and her defencive trigger (essentially makes Assassinate useless and presto chago is great for so many schemes never mind killing power) Sandeep on other hand is incredibly versatile and efficient with all the card draw and can kill and scheme very well if there are a few models who are a little squishy so prob needs some tweeks In terms of buffs, raspy and Marcus need some help, raspy could realy do with losing the discard for triggers or ignore pillers for los ect (so no cover) Marcus prob wants hitch a ride or something to means he doesn't need to waste AP moving that he wants to spend on spraying out upgrades Kaeris keyword prob needs a little widening, fire gamin arnt great and the golem can realy fall over vs condition removal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooshawn Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 I kinda wish they would give hungering darkness immortal or something similar. sacrifice a friendly model with 5 or more brilliance to bring HD back into play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinn Posted February 6, 2021 Report Share Posted February 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, ooshawn said: I kinda wish they would give hungering darkness immortal or something similar. sacrifice a friendly model with 5 or more brilliance to bring HD back into play This is an Arcanist thread. The Hungering Darkness really isn't the part of that keyword that needs a buff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordon Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Most of the issues I hear with Sandeep is actually Kandara. Card draw is by far the best mantra and often you'll see her make appearances in other gamin crews just for that ability alone. I like the suggestion of changing to instead look at the top card and discarding. Then it'd be good to leave it at that and re-examine the keyword again. Colette is powerful but I find her in-theme crew very challenging. I find that Manipulative works against them in some regards as it encourages focused shots, which often end up killing them in a single go. The Duet is powerful but holy hell if it isn't complicated to use... Try explaining to a new player how to "properly" activate a Duet and watch their brain seep out of their ears. It's also the most expensive, non-master, model in the game, so yeah, I expect it to do some work. Mech rider is interesting. I find most of what people talk about is that re-activate trigger. Honestly, Wyrd removed that mechanic for a reason so I wouldn't be sad to see it replaced entirely. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 3 hours ago, Jordon said: Mech rider is interesting. I find most of what people talk about is that re-activate trigger. Honestly, Wyrd removed that mechanic for a reason so I wouldn't be sad to see it replaced entirely. Didn't they just remove it for more than two in a row? Viktorias, accomplice, companion (so all of Outcasts) can still do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinn Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Maniacal_cackle said: Didn't they just remove it for more than two in a row? Viktorias, accomplice, companion (so all of Outcasts) can still do it. The Revelation trigger allows a model to activate even if it has already activated this turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 Just now, Jinn said: The Revelation trigger allows a model to activate even if it has already activated this turn. Ahhh, that's what you mean. Yeah, that's relatively rare. Forgotten, Tara, Coryphee Duet, Cadmus, and I can't think of any others? Although it doesn't come with free activation control at least. I'd call for a nerf so hard if it did xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycellanious Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I dont think Kandara is the problem with Sansdeep, I think the new Replace rules are. Stacking Focused +6 on two Golems Turn 1 and 2 is insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannydb Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 To this day I don't know why wyrd changed replace with gg1, I spent most of beta advocating condions stacking was too good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycellanious Posted February 7, 2021 Report Share Posted February 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, dannydb said: To this day I don't know why wyrd changed replace with gg1, I spent most of beta advocating condions stacking was too good Was it for Tokens maybe? Cuz it felt bad for Blight or Brilliance to be lost when multiple models replaced? And then they did it with Conditions for consistancy? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuBlanck Posted February 8, 2021 Report Share Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 11:46 PM, dannydb said: Colettes keyword is full of don't mind me which is incredibly useful in 3 of the 4 strategies in gg1, The impression I've had is that the Performer Keyword is almost irrelevant in the discussion of Colette's power. If anything, I'd agree with @Jordon that several (non-Colette) Performer models are perhaps in need of a boost, being paper-tough and pillow-fisted in a season that rewards resilience and aggression. They are overshadowed by Colette herself being such a positional powerhouse, so it is hard to have a conversation about Performer without talking for most of it about how strong Colette is. Coryphee and Mech Rider manipulating activations seem far more relevant than anything else, it's pretty much coincidence that the Coryphee is Performer. On 2/7/2021 at 2:36 AM, Jordon said: re-activate... Honestly, Wyrd removed that mechanic for a reason so I wouldn't be sad to see it replaced entirely Strong agree. I also hate that Molly can re-activate her mobile minions, but that could conceivably be salt rather than actual balance concerns. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admiralvorkraft Posted February 9, 2021 Report Share Posted February 9, 2021 Not a nerf or a buff - but could Ferdinand Vogel please be erratad to give him Elite/Mimic? I love the model and would like to still play him with Lucius please... He even has Intimidating Authority already. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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