Maniacal_cackle Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, admiralvorkraft said: They probably shouldn't physically keep up with Seamus, but there should be some synergy there that doesn't currently exist. Interesting fact - Redchapel has the worst (damaging) willpower attacks of the entire faction, despite their whole theme being penalties to willpower attacks xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I dunno, I kinda split the fence on this. Some of the models are good and have a defined role, and some I just don't know what to do with. Doxies and Dandies I think are fine. Doxies because the are solid generic minions who don't die especially easily and have some movement shenanigans, and Dandies who are in keyword corpse generation and anti-scheme runners. The others... not been in love with them. It's probably ok that Mourners are better with Reva and don't really have a great role with Seamus. Not every minion for every master is taken or very good, look at the general distain for Bultungin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 I think Belles have a very clear role - they're the only melee willpower attack in the keyword. They're designed to swarm the enemy and tear them apart as a group. Doxies are more stand alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 It could just be my opponent's, but any time I've tried a swam of belles they got run over by McCabe (Not a thing any more I know), or just shot completely off the board by Fuhatsu, or caught in the Rail Golem's Vent Steam Aura, or Mei Feng breathed fire over them and beat them apart, or the enemy sent a terror causing model into the center of the pack... and on and on. I've generally found that bubbling as a main game plan is a really bad idea unless your bubble has massive advantages, like a Pandora bubble. If I have to spend 15ss, and that expenditure comes with a fixed way I have to operate for any real effectiveness, I think I'd rather just buy the Dead Rider, since he gives the ability to adapt my game plan as the situation develops. Totally willing to be convinced that there are enough crews out there where a pack of Belles actually is a good thing, since my opponent's, before the pandemic even, were more limited in what they brought. I just haven't personally experienced them being a good buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maniacal_cackle Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 11 hours ago, Fetid Strumpet said: It could just be my opponent's, but any time I've tried a swam of belles they got run over by McCabe (Not a thing any more I know), or just shot completely off the board by Fuhatsu, or caught in the Rail Golem's Vent Steam Aura, or Mei Feng breathed fire over them and beat them apart, or the enemy sent a terror causing model into the center of the pack... and on and on. I've generally found that bubbling as a main game plan is a really bad idea unless your bubble has massive advantages, like a Pandora bubble. If I have to spend 15ss, and that expenditure comes with a fixed way I have to operate for any real effectiveness, I think I'd rather just buy the Dead Rider, since he gives the ability to adapt my game plan as the situation develops. Totally willing to be convinced that there are enough crews out there where a pack of Belles actually is a good thing, since my opponent's, before the pandemic even, were more limited in what they brought. I just haven't personally experienced them being a good buy. I don't think you could ever argue triple Belle is top tier (though maybe if you slapped 'forgotten' on them 😜 ). But I find them pretty solid. When I run them, they ideally just run as a scheme-runner pack. They can't be bogged down very easily. If you engage them with something strong, one breaks off from the pack and lures you, the others just continue on). If you engage them with something weak, they tear it apart. I like them because they're a self-contained bubble, and need no further support (or even cards most of the time) from the rest of the crew. But yeah, in terms of 'send this bubble at your enemy's main force', they die real fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fetid Strumpet Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 Fair. Though 15 SS for a scheme runner and you could just buy a mobile master. Im still not sure if she’s good, I’m at the moment hovering around Kang equivalence, but I do like how Sybelle does encourage more red chapel. She can’t give out distracted as easily if it’s just her dealing with whatever if after her. I do think she’s going to work well with Bete though, since she can send models into Bete to fire Bete’s pounce. So maybe, if you are bringing Sybelle Redchapel drops to 1/3 OOK? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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