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So this week wyrd show a new Minion with two keyword Seeker and Syndicate (they share It with the bew henchman).

What do you think? The chronicle (geomancy) makes me think this crew are going to get enought healing yo create at least 2/3 each turn.

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Not sure I like Price of Progress being what appears to be a Keyword ability. That easy access to triggers doesn't sit right with me, for the moment.

Pythagoras Quake is funny, but require a lot of things to go right. I'm assuming that you use the outer bounds of the sightlines, and therefore the target is also always "within"?

6 wounds, Armor and all-but-auto Hazardous aura does seem a bit much, given he's no slouch offensively. At least he's kinda slow independently (Chain Gang is fine until you don't have a partner available and willing).

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Agree on price of progress, makes triggers a bit too trivial/require so little planning (although I guess especially with this guy, paying one life is not trivial at all).

For the model itself, 6-cost armor one is always worth a look. I assume price of progress means the crew will be trying to self-heal quite a bit, which means this guy is just spitting out markers (although I assume markers are for one crew, price of progress for the other).

Some nice damage, coupled with hazardous terrain and being annoying to kill off (and if you do, it is only a 6 stone model)... I can see these fellas causing quite a bit of annoyance/bogging enemies down.

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Everything depends how easy to access for Syndicate will be card draw, healing and movement boost, if the healing in keyword/ook will be scarce then price of progress will be tuned down and can't be spammed at will. Same things if card drawing will be also scarce then there will be no spamming with Geode Markers. Their 4" movement may be pain in the ass without speed boosters (okey they have  Chain gang, but then they will not be able to use field of steel) as they are short range models.

Two things (movement boost and trigger with healing) from three grants Finnigan, but we don't know the whole keyword so it's hard to judge.

Also they gonna suffer from cover and concealment so efficiency of Hooked chain depends on how many things we have on table and how many long, empty streets you have.

But they offer crazy amount of ping damage.

TT McCabe with Wanyudo will be true nightmare for them hahaha.

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15 hours ago, FrostHunter said:

Everything depends how easy to access for Syndicate will be card draw, healing and movement boost, if the healing in keyword/ook will be scarce then price of progress will be tuned down and can't be spammed at will. Same things if card drawing will be also scarce then there will be no spamming with Geode Markers. Their 4" movement may be pain in the ass without speed boosters (okey they have  Chain gang, but then they will not be able to use field of steel) as they are short range models.

Two things (movement boost and trigger with healing) from three grants Finnigan, but we don't know the whole keyword so it's hard to judge.

Also they gonna suffer from cover and concealment so efficiency of Hooked chain depends on how many things we have on table and how many long, empty streets you have.

But they offer crazy amount of ping damage.

TT McCabe with Wanyudo will be true nightmare for them hahaha.

They will be using Chain Gang in turns 1-2 to get to places, when Field of Steel would be less necessary. So they're mobility isn't bad.

The healing part, we will just have to wait to see more, but if it's there, I assume there is going to be some sort of healing, probably to compensate all of those Price of Progress.

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3 minutes ago, fire5tone said:

price of progress on him is free, hes armor 1

Armor does not reduce damage to 0. Only apecific abilities and effects that say so can reduce damage to 0, being shielded and using soulstones to prevent damage the most common ones. 

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On 5/21/2020 at 12:02 PM, Morgan Vening said:

6 wounds, Armor and all-but-auto Hazardous aura does seem a bit much, given he's no slouch offensively. At least he's kinda slow independently (Chain Gang is fine until you don't have a partner available and willing).

A flip that requires a five will fail 31.5% of the time.  You can generalize that to 1-in-3 times.  It's not that hard, but not automatic.   I think he's fine.  He's pushed harder than a lot of minions, but a lot of minions are junk.  Like, a LOT of minions are junk this edition.  This is more where I think a model needs to be.   Well designed minion.

As an aside though, I'm really starting to see the arguments for shorter games (either 3 or 4 rounds).  This is a marker creation, 4" aura, and three different ways to move other models on a 6 stone model.  That's a lot of measuring and moving for one activation, and he's not exactly going to go down easy.  

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This is a very interesting cool minion. Needs others from keyword to see where it lands. Winston feels a bit under costed, this feels good. The triggers aren’t that strong so getting them easily isn’t op. Especially at the cost of health. No one thinks December Acolytes are OP and without context they should be able to take one of these guys 1 vs. 1. It’s going to be the synergy that makes this a strong minion I think!!

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14 hours ago, RisingPhoenix said:

A flip that requires a five will fail 31.5% of the time.  You can generalize that to 1-in-3 times.  It's not that hard, but not automatic.   I think he's fine.  He's pushed harder than a lot of minions, but a lot of minions are junk.  Like, a LOT of minions are junk this edition.  This is more where I think a model needs to be.   Well designed minion.

As an aside though, I'm really starting to see the arguments for shorter games (either 3 or 4 rounds).  This is a marker creation, 4" aura, and three different ways to move other models on a 6 stone model.  That's a lot of measuring and moving for one activation, and he's not exactly going to go down easy.  

When I said automatic, I was including the option to use of a 5-7 from hand, if putting up the aura is considered important. Obviously, that's going to depend on a lot of factors, including availability, card draw, card cycle, and need for discards within the crew (Finnegan doesn't have one, this guy has Geomancy, no clear "lots of Flurry/RapidFire/etc" yet).

And while I agree that the number of junk minions is significant (especially given that pass tokens take away one of the more important reason to take them), I'm leery of the new Faction leading the way on that front, rather than those others getting worked on first. Because even the appearance of codex creep is likely to annoy people. I mean, we'll see where that ends up (I have faith in Wyrd), but it is something to be mindful of. People feeling they need to buy into ExSo Squad, rather than because it looks awesome/interesting/quirky, has a way of backfiring.

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I think if the faction doesn't have anything like Dreamer in it, people will understand if it's all good, especially if they build up some goodwill by buffing stuff in the future.  There's no reason to design things in a way you know doesn't work just because it was done that way in the past.

And for reference, these will be far from the best 6 soulstone minion, that's still probably Hucksters or Undergraduates.

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